Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
errrrr...you support the unlawful killing of often innocent people for political gain Furunculus and see nothing wrong with it , that is supporting terrorism , plain and simple .
Which means you are no different to the fenians or loyalists.

Ever heard of a little place called Dublin ? or a smaller place called Monaghan ? Perhaps you have heard of the Keys Tavern ?
Funny how the paper trail and forensics for all those head one way doesn't it , perhaps when it goes finally to the European court Britain will have to hand over the rest of the details that it so far has refused to .
Though of course one outcome of the proposals put forward is that such nasty little details would be left in the past .

Operation banner
Thats the overall military deployment for decades , it doesn't cover all the illegal does it
The reports into the illegal stuff said it had a negative effect , prolonged the conflict and caused more deep rooted problems that will probably never be resolved . In fact didn't they decide that the FRUs claims about it achievements were exagerated by about 100 times and that most of the terrorists they examined were actually British agents...and they managed to decide that despite having their British government office attacked by the bloody British agents .
I never said i support the killing of innocent people.
The British Gov't did not allow major bombings to go ahead that any of us know, and even then i never justified bombings in the first place.

There will be a paper trail that leads into every fetid republican and loyalist rathole in NI as a result of thirty years of police/military/intelligence attempts to infiltrate and subvert the gangs, and there will have been innumerable occasions when difficult questions will have been asked as to whether enough was known about a threat to challenge it, whether some agents cover was worth blowing over the possibility of a threat. That detail is subjective and will never appear objectively in official reports.

The purpose of mentioning the OpBanner report was to highlight its recognition that rooting out a determined terrorist organisation is a delicate balance between fighting effectively and not trampling the civic community to the point where the grievance that harbours the group grows as a result of attempts to fight the group.
The Armed Forces think they got that balance right, which i am happy to agree with even when i am aware of all the illegal things done to aid that fight.
I do not believe a the British Gov't could have fought the IRA successfully without the use of illegal means, and I am happy that the use of illegal means was limited and moderate in my opinion.