Who the heck was _spw_ doing the EB1 skins?

**Tudhaliya** · 01-30-2009, 23:49

Because i want to have his children. Seriously, the skins he did surpass all of the ones done by other artists. I have gone back and brushed all of theirs just so they will being to approach the quality of spw's work. I really hope he's working on EBII. Also, pm me if you want my opinion on which artisits should not be working on EBII, because I've got some opinions on one guy in particular.

Anyhow, I <3 you, spw.

**Moros** · 01-31-2009, 00:09

Spartan Warrior? He was indeed one of the best artist we had. His models are really stunning, even when depicting simple and cheap units.

**antisocialmunky** · 01-31-2009, 04:35

Originally Posted by Tudhaliya

Also, pm me if you want my opinion on which artisits should not be working on EBII, because I've got some opinions on one guy in particular.

Seems presumptuous me thinks.

**Tudhaliya** · 01-31-2009, 08:24

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Seems presumptuous me thinks.

I think judging art is one of those things where you don't have to be able to make it yourself to be able to critique it. Especially when the artwork is trying to model something "real". For example, my untrained eyes are quite familiar with what a human face looks like, and thus I can judge whether an artist's depiction of a face is good or not. Another example is scale mail. The scales should be roughly the same size, and probably be lined up somewhat (especially on "elite" units that can afford good armor). If the scales are all out whack, that will be apparent even to a layman like myself.

But yes, criticism sucks. So we should all try to do better so no one bitches at us.

~Tudhaliya

**eddy_purpus** · 01-31-2009, 11:25

Originally Posted by Tudhaliya

I think judging art is one of those things where you don't have to be able to make it yourself to be able to critique it. Especially when the artwork is trying to model something "real". For example, my untrained eyes are quite familiar with what a human face looks like, and thus I can judge whether an artist's depiction of a face is good or not. Another example is scale mail. The scales should be roughly the same size, and probably be lined up somewhat (especially on "elite" units that can afford good armor). If the scales are all out whack, that will be apparent even to a layman like myself.

But yes, criticism sucks. So we should all try to do better so no one bitches at us.

~Tudhaliya

critizism without constructive words sucks....

**antisocialmunky** · 01-31-2009, 13:39

Originally Posted by Tudhaliya

I think judging art is one of those things where you don't have to be able to make it yourself to be able to critique it. Especially when the artwork is trying to model something "real". For example, my untrained eyes are quite familiar with what a human face looks like, and thus I can judge whether an artist's depiction of a face is good or not. Another example is scale mail. The scales should be roughly the same size, and probably be lined up somewhat (especially on "elite" units that can afford good armor). If the scales are all out whack, that will be apparent even to a layman like myself.

But yes, criticism sucks. So we should all try to do better so no one bitches at us.

~Tudhaliya

Youv'e missed the point. It just seems like a presumptuous attitude to say something like that in a public place.

**Strategos Alexandros** · 01-31-2009, 15:35

Sorry to be pedantic but scale armour's scales weren't always all the same size:
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:....wikimedia.org

**Tudhaliya** · 01-31-2009, 21:09

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Youv'e missed the point. It just seems like a presumptuous attitude to say something like that in a public place.

You might be right. I do need to work on my social manner - I always seem to be a bit out of synch with everyone.

As for the pedant above: the scales we're talking about, in what way are they not all the same size? I was just assuming that while they might vary depending on what part of the body they cover (large ones for the immoble areas of the chest and back, small ones closer to the armpits and other joints). Is it rather that the distribution is random? Because in that case I'd have to retract my earlier criticism about the quality of some of the skins.

**Majd il-Romani** · 02-05-2009, 03:37

Originally Posted by Tudhaliya

Because i want to have his children. Seriously, the skins he did surpass all of the ones done by other artists. I have gone back and brushed all of theirs just so they will being to approach the quality of spw's work. I really hope he's working on EBII. Also, pm me if you want my opinion on which artisits should not be working on EBII, because I've got some opinions on one guy in particular.

Anyhow, I <3 you, spw.

would you mind giving a few examples please?

**Ibrahim** · 02-05-2009, 05:20

Originally Posted by Majd il-Romani

would you mind giving a few examples please?

I think its a better idea to let him PM you, not post the examples.

**Tux** · 02-05-2009, 14:03

What the heck is the reason for this thread, couldn't you pm him about this?! Or did you just wanted to trash someone who gave up he's some of he's free time to do some skinning...

**Owen Glyndwr** · 02-05-2009, 15:35

Originally Posted by alin

What the heck is the reason for this thread, couldn't you pm him about this?! Or did you just wanted to trash someone who gave up he's some of he's free time to do some skinning...

Agree, this mod is done voluntarily guys, these guys are giving their all for this mod, and you know what? They aren't even getting payed for it. So just sit back and enjoy what you have, Or would you rather just not have any game at all?