Who are you going to play as first?

**Durango** · 02-06-2009, 16:23

Originally Posted by USS Providence 1972

Being Scotch-Irish I will probably start with Great Britain although Sweden is tempting.

Cool, I would also like to start with your country/countries, but that is not possible as far as I know. Especially Ireland with its nice isolation and access to the sea has always appealed to me. Not to mention the Scottish, with their bagpipes on the battlefields

If you're going to play Sweden, I recommend NOT marching towards Moscow in the winter. Especially if you are facing a Russian king whose name starts with P and the year is between 1708 and 1710... otherwise the hardy "Indelta" soldiers of Sweden should do just fine. Good luck.

**Merak** · 02-06-2009, 17:08

if it is not to hard i will play sweden if it is then france, and kick the royal british behind

**Sir Beane** · 02-06-2009, 18:36

Originally Posted by Durango

Cool, I would also like to start with your country/countries, but that is not possible as far as I know. Especially Ireland with its nice isolation and access to the sea has always appealed to me. Not to mention the Scottish, with their bagpipes on the battlefields

If you're going to play Sweden, I recommend NOT marching towards Moscow in the winter. Especially if you are facing a Russian king whose name starts with P and the year is between 1708 and 1710... otherwise the hardy "Indelta" soldiers of Sweden should do just fine. Good luck.

Scotland is definitely in game as an emergent faction. I imagine that mods will make them playable pretty quickly. No one is sure about Ireland, but they seem a likely candidate for an emergent faction.

Highland Clansmen are in game as a unit, and bagpipers have been confirmed.

**USS Providence 1972** · 02-07-2009, 04:41

Originally Posted by Durango

Cool, I would also like to start with your country/countries, but that is not possible as far as I know. Especially Ireland with its nice isolation and access to the sea has always appealed to me. Not to mention the Scottish, with their bagpipes on the battlefields

If you're going to play Sweden, I recommend NOT marching towards Moscow in the winter. Especially if you are facing a Russian king whose name starts with P and the year is between 1708 and 1710... otherwise the hardy "Indelta" soldiers of Sweden should do just fine. Good luck.

I imagine Great Britain will include some Scottish units, not sure about the Irish. That's why I was thinking Great Britain.

With Sweden I would probably leave Russia alone and go after easier targets at least in the beginning. I don't know if the cost of attacking Russia would be worth the benefit. Maybe take some of the Western area as a buffer zone.

One thing I wonder about is whether the AI is improved so that opposing countries will load armies onto transport ships and land them on your territory. That was lacking in RTW.

**Polemists** · 02-07-2009, 06:40

I don't think I'll play any of the unlockable factions, I just enjoy the speeches and voices to much to play a faction where they are limited at best or stolen from another faction at worst.

I wonder though, if all playable factions are unlockable right off the bat, if any rewards will be given when you beat the grand campaign.

As the reward used to be you could unlock more factions.

Hidden maps, units, new starting leader, i dunno, but i'd be nice to have some reward for your faction when you win.

**Sir Beane** · 02-07-2009, 13:03

Originally Posted by Polemists

I don't think I'll play any of the unlockable factions, I just enjoy the speeches and voices to much to play a faction where they are limited at best or stolen from another faction at worst.

I wonder though, if all playable factions are unlockable right off the bat, if any rewards will be given when you beat the grand campaign.

As the reward used to be you could unlock more factions.

Hidden maps, units, new starting leader, i dunno, but i'd be nice to have some reward for your faction when you win.

Some of the non-playable factions will probably have their own voices, especially some of the more unique factions such as the Native Americans and the Indians.

I've always though that TW games need to add in rewards for completing the campaign. It would definitely add even geater replay value.

New units, new colours, a fancy flag, a special building, a new resource, larger starting armies. Any of those would be good rewards for winning as a faction. And it might persuade me to play as every faction if I could unlock something really interesting by playing as them.

Even a decent ending cinematic would be nice. Shogun had by far the best ending of any TW game, and that's saying something really. It was still pretty cool seeing a statue of your leader in modern Japan though.

**Polemists** · 02-07-2009, 13:06

Yes, I think Barbarian Invasion wasn't bad because at least each faction had it's own little execerpt.

Though Rome sucked, when I won as gaul and got a Briton ending it was sad :(...my guys weren't blue...why did they have to be in the cinematic...

MTW2 was horrid if you didn't play as one of the main five, France, England, HRE, Venice, Spain, you got nothing. No matter who you played it was the same silly movie.

I think some rewards would good, something to expand the faction a little so next time you play it's a slightly different experience.

All those ideas sound good.

**Pinxit** · 02-09-2009, 12:41

Originally Posted by Polemists

Yes, I think Barbarian Invasion wasn't bad because at least each faction had it's own little execerpt.

Though Rome sucked, when I won as gaul and got a Briton ending it was sad :(...my guys weren't blue...why did they have to be in the cinematic...

MTW2 was horrid if you didn't play as one of the main five, France, England, HRE, Venice, Spain, you got nothing. No matter who you played it was the same silly movie.

I think some rewards would good, something to expand the faction a little so next time you play it's a slightly different experience.

All those ideas sound good.

Kind of like Age of Empires, where you rise in experience and gain benefits from it. I dont think I like that idea.

BUT. What I really want is statistics. Thats all the reward I need. I want to know everything about my faction at the end. How many kills, battles won vs lost, units killed vs lost, etc. Best commander, best income, admiral, etc. Evrrrrything.

**IlDuce** · 02-09-2009, 12:58

GB, and I'll wipe out the French no matter how much it might ruin me and my coffers. It's a thing of principle and tradition. That being said I think Britain has a rivalry of sorts with pretty much everyone in the western world.

**Sir Beane** · 02-09-2009, 13:02

Originally Posted by Pinxit

Kind of like Age of Empires, where you rise in experience and gain benefits from it. I dont think I like that idea.

BUT. What I really want is statistics. Thats all the reward I need. I want to know everything about my faction at the end. How many kills, battles won vs lost, units killed vs lost, etc. Best commander, best income, admiral, etc. Evrrrrything.

I'd love to have a statistics screen like this at the end of a campaign! Especially if you could save your results somehow and compare them to others campaigns.

@ IlDuce

Good show! Show those French blighters that us Brits mean business! Take their land and gift it to the Native Americans! That will show 'em.

**General SupaCrunk** · 02-07-2009, 21:23

Originally Posted by Sir Beane

Some of the non-playable factions will probably have their own voices, especially some of the more unique factions such as the Native Americans and the Indians.

I've always though that TW games need to add in rewards for completing the campaign. It would definitely add even geater replay value.

New units, new colours, a fancy flag, a special building, a new resource, larger starting armies. Any of those would be good rewards for winning as a faction. And it might persuade me to play as every faction if I could unlock something really interesting by playing as them.

Even a decent ending cinematic would be nice. Shogun had by far the best ending of any TW game, and that's saying something really. It was still pretty cool seeing a statue of your leader in modern Japan though.

Ireland also is confirmed by CA and also emerging faction in India it was...Punjab!

**Megas Methuselah** · 02-07-2009, 23:53

Not playable, though.

**Polemists** · 02-08-2009, 06:54

Yes, it is assumed that the other emergent factions who are not the 13 colonies are not playable.

As for the last two playable factions, no one really knows who they will be. Most guesses are a india faction and another faction.

We will probably here another faction next week as they are running out of days at this point. :)