Gaza again

**Fragony** · 02-03-2009, 08:56

Originally Posted by CountArach

Think about it:
1) Your house is destroyed
2) Your family is killed
3) Hamas comes up to and says "Here's 4000 Euroes, no strings attached"
4) Israel invades again

Who do you support?

Israel loses nothing here, those who made up their mind have made up their mind. All that money for rebuilding would normally go to rockets, so less money for rockets. Hamas is the moral victor in this for those who already felt they are the moral victor, the only thing that changes is that Hamas has less money to do their thing.

**CountArach** · 02-03-2009, 10:18

Originally Posted by Fragony

Israel loses nothing here, those who made up their mind have made up their mind. All that money for rebuilding would normally go to rockets, so less money for rockets. Hamas is the moral victor in this for those who already felt they are the moral victor, the only thing that changes is that Hamas has less money to do their thing.

You honestly don't think that the invasion will turn Moderates into Radicals? If not there is obviously no point arguing with you.

**Tribesman** · 02-03-2009, 10:55

Israel loses nothing here

Actually Frag Israel lost plenty , they showed that they are both weak and stupid .
They also showed that despite blocking the media there the new improved intensive propoganda program couldn't put out stories without them falling apart within hours which seriously lost them credibility .

I'd be amazed if it took any more than 10%.

I'd be amazed if they even spent that , I would have thought their overseas sponsors supplied all that crap for free .

**Fragony** · 02-03-2009, 12:35

Originally Posted by CountArach

You honestly don't think that the invasion will turn Moderates into Radicals? If not there is obviously no point arguing with you.

Probably. But Hamas already hurts what it can hurt so what difference does it make if there are more radicals?

**rasoforos** · 02-03-2009, 12:52

Originally Posted by Fragony

Probably. But Hamas already hurts what it can hurt so what difference does it make if there are more radicals?

Its a 'final solution' isnt it? Radicalize people so you have an excuse to kill them...

But of course these people are of a different colour and religion so why should you care...

**Fragony** · 02-03-2009, 13:25

Originally Posted by rasoforos

Its a 'final solution' isnt it? Radicalize people so you have an excuse to kill them...

But of course these people are of a different colour and religion so why should you care...

YEAH. Well no. Just pointing out that this backfiring to Israel like CountArach seems to think it is somewhat silly, it's not going to change anyone's mind, the only effect is less money for Hamas if actually spend the cash on rebuilding.

**rory_20_uk** · 02-03-2009, 16:10

Rebuilding? Has Israel run out of targets?

**Tribesman** · 02-03-2009, 16:48

what difference does it make if there are more radicals?

Since the problem is radicals then any attempt at progress should be directed at reducing the amount of radicals not increasing it .
So Frag was that another obvious case of

You just start bashing away at that keyboard whether your brain is switched on or not.

**Idaho** · 02-03-2009, 10:51

Originally Posted by Fragony

All that money for rebuilding would normally go to rockets...

You just start bashing away at that keyboard whether your brain is switched on or not. Do you really believe that home made rockets take up nearly all Hamas expediture? I'd be amazed if it took any more than 10%.