Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
What I think he fails to consider is that his proposed solution has been attempted at various points in the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s, and each and every time, Israel's foes have used such period of magnamity to redouble the efforts against them.
It's post number 120 that I mean, he sais if option A never works and option B works at least temporarily, they should keep trying option B.
Now if you replace "option A" with "revenge" and "option B" with diplomacy, you might get the idea.
And since we're about asking other people about viability and noone asks me anyway, i want to say that i find that a viable answer to Hooah's question about what Tribes would propose if neither option leads to peace. In other words, Tribes proposes to keep trying the option that works at least somewhat instead of the one that doesn't work at all.
I didn't really find it very hard to figure that out, but maybe I got a little Tribesman inside me.


Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
I honestly don't know if the pervasive European thought is that Europeans don't believe the pan-Islamic world when they say their ultimate goal is to eliminate Israel and Jews in the Middle East, or you're content with that as a final result yourselves. All I know is I find it utterly amazing that Hamas fires rockets into Israel in direct violation of the most recently established ceasefire and the most popular European response is that Israel was to blame, followed with condemnation of Israel for suggesting that they might do ANYTHING to prevent future attacks.
I tried to explain that myself, it's post number 103, you might want to read it.
On the issue of the pan-islamic world being serious about their threads or not I myself am not very sure, I think some probably are, but I do not think bombs are a solution for them, arrests or assassinations with small squads are more dangerous but they are what civilized nations use when some citizens act up. As Tribesman said before, when someone takes a bank hostage, you don't just fire with artillery at the building to end this, do you?
What Israel should attempt with negotiations is a free Palestinian state that is not occupied, has access to important ressources and then hold the government responsible for terrorist acts when they happen, but right now it's a miserable place that reminds you of mad max and Israel expects it to be a peaceful place where law and order flourish and everybody has to love the ones who are cutting off their water and electricity.

I would also like to hear what you think should be done about settlers who settle in a foreign country that is not theirs and then throw stones at the locals and/or expulse them at gunpoint?
Now are the locals right to fight back or would you gladly leave your own house to a russian communist when he comes and moves in?