EB for ETW ideas

**chairman** · 02-02-2009, 06:10

Wow. Great ideas. Thanks for all of this so far.

As far as ramming goes, it would be accurate for mediterranean galleys to use ramming to a limited extant, the main issue being that galleys were replaced by purely sail-powered ships by around 1700, meaning that CA may decide not to bother including the ramming function within ETW. However, if they do, it would definitely allow for realistic galley combat, which is a must for an ETW based EB.

The focus on ranged combat could go either way, depending on how it is implemented. Archers, and skirmishers might possibly react more realistically when engaging in pre-battle skirmish. This would be especially helpfull in portraying the ranged combat of Persia and the East. However, it is also possible that focus would only inhibit melee troops from acting normally, which would be very unfortunate. We will have to wait and see.

50 factions, "unlimited" provinces .... does anyone have an estimate of the unit limit? This is very important. I have indeed read comments by EB team members that stated to the effect that a higher unit limit is more important than more factions or even provinces, in a similar way the unlimited model number of M2TW is more important than all of these other factors for EBII.

Makes me hopeful for the future of EB. Keep brainstorming more ideas Orgahs.

Chairman

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 02-02-2009, 09:19

Off topi thread. Spam thread? Lock time?

**oudysseos** · 02-02-2009, 09:59

Maybe just move it as op suggested?

I think it's funny no-one has mentioned what I think is one of the most original and exciting features of ETW: theatres. Apparently there are three theatres of war, with quick travel options between them. What that makes possible for a hellenistic era mod (or any other era) is a high level of local detail now impossible with M2TW or RTW. What I mean is, you could have 'Greece and Asia Minor' as one theatre, with every major Greek city-state on a detailed map, and then move to another theatre, say, 'Persia and India', with the same level of detail. Essentially they have made it possible to integrate seperate local campaigns into a coherent whole.

But MAA is right, this doesn't have much to do with EB or EB2. It belongs in the ETW forum.

**chairman** · 02-02-2009, 11:40

MAA & Oudysseos: I don't see why this is off topic, and I feel disappointed that you would think that I would post any sort of spam on these forums. I take my responsibility as a member of these forums very seriously, and I only try to contribute to the knowledge and enjoyment of other members while learning what I can from those members who have their own insight to contribute. As my small post count indicates, I only post when I think it is important or worthwhile. I completely understood the reasons that Antinous' ETW thread was locked after the original question was answered, but I believe that this thread is appropriate for the EB forum. Its purpose is to discuss how ETW could be used to enhance EB in later versions. So far, those who have posted have only posted relevant, and in my humble opinion, insightful subject matter. I ask you to please allow this thread to remain open as long as it remains on topic (which it so far has). The only reason that in my original post I asked moderators to move this thread if appropriate was that I did not know whether the general EB or EBII forums would be better suited.

As respectful as always

Chairman

**oudysseos** · 02-02-2009, 11:53

Chairman, I don't speak officially for the EB team in these matters so don't take my comments in that way. I don't think that your posts are in the least spam, but they are about a hypothetical EB3 mod for ETW. Since EB2 is not yet finished and ETW is not yet released, and since this forum is intended to be about EB 1 for RTW, I do think that the ETW part of the org is more appropriate. There is even a subforum for ETW mods. Start a thread there? You can link it in your signature if you want to draw attention to it.

**chairman** · 02-02-2009, 12:04

Thank you Oudysseos for your response. I understand what you are saying about the ETW forums.

However, in the past, there have been instances of moderators asking members to move their topics from the EBII forum since they only concerned EB in general as opposed to EBII in specific. While this forum began as a forum specifically for EBI for RTW, it has now become the "EB Forum mainpage" if you will, which I believe means that it is the appropriate place for non-spam, on topic, EB related content that does not specifically fall under the categories of EBII, Bugs & Help, unofficial mods or AARs. As this thread concerns EB in general but does not fall under any of the aforementioned categories, it is my humble opinion that it belongs in the EB general forum.

Please excuse me if any of my posts seem rude or insincere. That would be the opposite of my intentions, and I do everything I can (within the confines of internet communication) to assure that my posts are understood as the respectful and sincere messages that I intend them to be.

It seems that in my attempt to justify this threads original purpose I have changed it. I'm sorry. If you wish to continue this conversation please PM me.

Thank you again

Chairman

**oudysseos** · 02-02-2009, 12:13

You are not in the least rude or insincere and your point about this forum being the EB 'main page' is a very good one.
There has in fact been a lot of discussion in the EB dev forum about the issue of the forum and what if anything to do about it. The problem is that a lot of time is spent by EB moderators in tracking down spam and trolls (not you by any stretch), time that could be better spent.

So whaddya think about theatres? To me, another 20+ factions is not so important: it's hard enough to get work done on the 10 new factions for EB2. At some point you just gotta say enough.