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  • CA 3.1 Yes

    7 77.78%
  • CA 3.1 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.2 Yes

    7 77.78%
  • CA 3.2 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.3 Yes

    6 66.67%
  • CA 3.3 No

    1 11.11%
  • CA 3.4 Yes

    7 77.78%
  • CA 3.4 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.5 Yes

    6 66.67%
  • CA 3.5 No

    1 11.11%
  • CA 3.6 Yes

    8 88.89%
  • CA 3.6 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.7 Yes

    6 66.67%
  • CA 3.7 No

    2 22.22%
  • CA 3.8 Yes

    7 77.78%
  • CA 3.8 No

    1 11.11%
  • CA 3.9 Yes

    8 88.89%
  • CA 3.9 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.10 Yes

    8 88.89%
  • CA 3.10 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.11 Yes

    8 88.89%
  • CA 3.11 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.12 Yes

    8 88.89%
  • CA 3.12 No

    0 0%
  • CA 3.13 Yes

    8 88.89%
  • CA 3.13 No

    0 0%
  • Edict 3.1 Yes

    7 77.78%
  • Edict 3.1 No

    2 22.22%
  • Edict 3.3 Yes

    7 77.78%
  • Edict 3.3 No

    2 22.22%
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    Default Fourth Congressional Council - Legislation Voting

    This poll is only for players of Beyond the Seven Hills.

    Voting will be open for 48 hours or until all votes are in, until 08:00 Pacific on Tuesday, February 3, 2009.

    The full text of the proposals is as follows:

    CA 3.1: 4.6 House’ Legion/Families Legion

    Civil war in Rome may be inevitable as senators are all vying for power here. So in order to not waste away the senate’s legions which the Republic needs to defend itself from foreign enemies, each house/family will be given a legion to call its own. Provincial Legions will be used strictly for defense while these personal legions can be used to defeat your political foes. All personal legions must be kept in a house/families provincial reign until they are involved in a civil war. No offensives on foreign enemies will be made unless it is requested, do not ask to have it put into combat.

    In order to gain access to a legion such as this, you must gain cities. All Provincial Governings are granted to you by the Princeps Senatus. Once you have been granted one, you can use your house/families settlement to fund you personal legions. It works like so:

    Each city grants a house/family an “invisible” amount of denarii’s. 1 city will give the house/family 1000 denarii’s a season. That’s 4000 denarii’s a year. During times of civil war, each city brings in 1500 a season. That’s 6000 a year. The amount of money a house/family has will be kept track of in a new thread called the Forum Trapezai. (The console cheat, add_money, will be used whenever the purchasing of units is done. So as far as the actual Republic goes, we will not gain nor lose any money as exact amounts per unit will be used. Ex: (Unit Costs: 1000, so only 1000 per one of those units will be added then immediately used.)

    Each personal legion can be named however the house/family chooses. All units requested for recruitment will be dealt with by navarro951 through an IC pm so that no one has the power to say “no I won’t recruit them”. Navarro951 will not respond to the message, the recruitment will simply be carried out unless other business needs tending to.

    Personal legions have a max of ten units. Each house/family may have 1 legion per city they own. The ten units can consist of any ten units they want.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.2: 1.4 Game Management

    At the start of each turn, the Consul of Finance will post a seasonal report on the events of the last turn, including a save game file for the new turn.
    After the seasonal report is posted, players will have 24 hours to download the save, and make their personal moves.
    Players can move their avatars, move any army (Consular Legion or otherwise) their avatar commands and fight any battles against the AI that they are capable of fighting with their avatar’s army.
    The Princeps Senatus may move any avatar or army that has not been moved in this way as he best sees fit, including moves that result in battles, except that he cannot move a player’s avatar, units on a Provincial Governor’s territory or units under player's control in any manner that player has expressly prohibited.
    The Consul of Finance may extend the time limit beyond 24 hours at his discretion, but all players are encouraged to act as swiftly as possible to keep the game moving.
    Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Senate.Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Senate or an Edict.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.3: 2.2 Gaining and Losing Provinces

    All conquered settlements belong to the Senate of Rome.
    A Provincial Governorship can be given to any player by the Princeps Senatus during a Congressional Session as he see fit.
    Princeps Senatus’ can take away a Provincial Governorship from the Player only if 2/3 of the 'Senate' agrees with it.

    Since the Princeps Senatus is the “primus inter pares” he decides, for the game will be more fluent. The senate has the right to vote about this matter, if a majority of senators wish it.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta


    CA 3.4
    :
    Promagistrate (To Replace Heres)
    Is bound to be the high office of Princeps Senatus
    Requirements: Must be in-game Faction heir. Must be elected by the Senate of Rome.
    Influence: 2 + 1 Stat Influence
    Powers:
    (1) Can propose 2 edict/amendments per 'Congressional' Session.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.5:
    Princeps Senatus (To Replace Dictator)
    The Princeps Senatus is the “primus inter pares”. That indicates that the person so described is technically equal, but looked upon as an authority of special importance by his peers.
    Requirements: Must be the in-game Faction Leader. Must have been elected by the Senate of Rome to be the Promagistrate before.
    Influence: 3 + 2 Stat Influence
    Powers:
    (1) Can propose an 2 Edicts/Amendments per 'Congressional' Session.
    (2) Can call Emergency Congressional Session.
    (3) Once per full 12 turn Consul Term, can force a transfer of one retinue member/item from any Player to themselves or any other Senator.
    (4) Can veto one Edict or Amendment per Congressional Session
    (5) Can ban Senators from a Congressional Session. Banned Senators cannot speak or propose legislation, but they are permitted to vote.
    (6) Can give the title 'Provincial Governor' to any Player he wishes with the senates consent. The grant can be taken only if 2/3 of the Senate agrees with it.
    (7) Once during his reign, the Princeps Senatus can automatically assume the post of Consul. The Princeps Senatus must declare he is exercising that right at a Congressional session; he will then be appointed Emperor of Rome with no election. This right can only be invoked once.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.6:
    3.6 War
    All declarations of war must be authorized by an Edict by the senate during a Congressional Session.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.7:
    3.9 Democratic Republic

    Note: For realism purposes the senate rules the people of Rome, however because he is backed by his consular legion and praetorians, the Princeps Senatus may override all powers of all players and claim himself Emperor if he so wishes. Civil war, however, is a possibility.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.8:
    4.2 Standard Legions

    Standard Legions will consist of a minimum of 5 infantry cohorts, 2 ranged and 1 cavalry cohorts.
    For the purposes of this rule, Generals’ Bodyguard units do not count as cavalry cohorts.
    The Princeps Senatus will decide who commands it, but it is upon the Senate to decide where it is to move (if at all), and whom to attack.
    Standard Legions can be created only during a Congressional Session by the Princeps Senatus or by the Senate using an Edict for that.
    All Standard Legions are marked with a number corresponding to how many Legions stand in Rome and where the Legion was created: 'I Legion of Roma, II Legion of Kyrene , III Legion of Bonnonia etc.'
    Standard Legions can be disbanded only during the Congressional Session, by the Princeps Senatus, or by the Senate through an Edict.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.9:
    4.4 Dux Campaign

    If so ordered by the Senate, a Dux can lead a Campaign consisting of at least 2 legions or more. A chain of command will be used in commencing this campaign. It all plays out like so:

    (1) Senate declares war on Averni and requests Dux Gaius Julius to lead the I Legion under Legatus Flavius Julius and the II Legion under Legatus Marcus Julius in an invasion into their territories.

    (2) Both Flavius and Marcus are now under complete control of Dux Gaius if he agrees to lead the campaign. The Dux will be aloud to form his own strategy for both his legion as well as the two player’s legions now placed under his command.

    (3) He will then report to the Consul of the Legions and the Senate which settlements he wish’s to conquer. (2 settlement min. and 5 settlement max.)

    (4) The Dux will have this command until he has completed his goals or determined he can no longer continue the campaign. Should he utterly fail in his campaign, he will be stripped of the title of Dux and be demoted to Legatus.

    (5) If at anytime the Senate and Consul of the Legions feels the campaign is no longer needed or is destined to fail it will be called off with no harm to the Dux.

    In all to be in command of such a campaign as a Dux is one of the highest of military honors in Rome and if you fail you will be punished accordingly, but should you succeed, you may see yourself as consul or dictator yourself one day.

    CA 3.10:
    4.5 Forming a House/Family

    Once you have gained the rank of Quaestor and have been granted a Provincial Governorship, you will want to befriend a standing Praetor and create a family/or house. A house must consist of at least three members including the Quaestor. To form a house, you must be given a Praetors “sponsorship”, announce the name of the house and which region it hails from, and what it stands for. Have your sponsoring Praetor announce the fact that he is sponsoring your House/Family in the senate and then you can get creative. Explain what your House/Family will stand for politically, militarily, and economically.

    A house will create huge advantages for the players in it. You will all be able to vote more powerfully during Congressional Sessions and also will be to place your members in better seats of power through your influence. Each house will have its own thread to discuss its own agenda.

    (Confirmation with the dictator removed from rule 4.5)
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    ALL CHANGES IN BOLD!

    CA 3.11: That the following Rank be Made
    Tribune of the Plebs
    Speaks for the Plebs and lower ranks of the legions.
    Requirements: Must be elected to position.
    Influence: 1+1
    Powers:
    (1) Can propose one edict/charter amendment per congressional council; plus one more edict per actively serving tribune.
    (2) Can veto one edict/charter amendment per congressional council.
    (3)The Tribune of the Plebs term is two Consul Terms long. (6 years)
    Penalties:
    (1) May not lead an army of any sort as he is still a tribune.
    (2) Cannot Run for Consul
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    For the Tribune of Plebs, Tribunes may also run in this council here and now.

    CA 3.12: That it be changed so Legates can run for Consul. For the purpose of this, legates may be able to run for Consul this turn.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    CA 3.13: That Provincial Dictators now be Provincial Governors.
    [B]
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    Edict 3.1:That the commissioning of Consular Legio IV Roma be proclaimed under my own leadership if the senate will have me.
    Proposed: Princeps Blasio
    Seconded: Tribunus Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta

    Edict 3.2: Withdrawn.

    Edict 3.3: Conduct a Dux Campaign in Illyria, targetting the kingdoms of Segestica, Dalminion and Epidamnos, using the Legio's I, II and III.
    Proposed: Dux Caivs Avrelivs Cotta
    Seconded: Princeps Blasio, Avlvs Aemilivs Mamercvs, Consul Cicero, Caivs Aemilivs Mamercvs

    Edict 3.4: Did not receive required seconds.

    Edict 3.5: Did not receive required seconds.

    Edict 3.6: Did not receive required seconds.

    CA 3.14
    : Did not receive required seconds.

    CA 3.15: Did not receive required seconds.

    Elected Consul of Finance: Princeps Blasio

    Elected Consul of the Legions: Promagistrate Cicero
    Last edited by navarro951; 02-01-2009 at 20:16.
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