Ziegenpeter got it right, it's a diadem, the symbol of a king's authority. Crowns were not yet in fashion back then.
Ziegenpeter got it right, it's a diadem, the symbol of a king's authority. Crowns were not yet in fashion back then.
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Originally Posted by Potocello
Well, it was fashion for aristocracy in general, not just Hellenistic kings.
Maion
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Yes and no.
A "crown", by modern generally accepted standards, is a jewelled headpiece ornament, commonly adorned with arches. This distinction [the arches] is usually seen in heraldry, as some crowns don't necessarily have that particular piece of decorations. But this serves to distinguish a "crown" from, for example, a "coronet" which would have served the title of a Duke, Earl or other greater nobles but the crown itself was a symbol of royalty.
But, stricto sensu, a crown is an ornamental headpiece that symbolises royalty. The term comes from the Latin corona which means both 'crown' and '[olive] wreath'.
The issue here is the fact that the "crown" has become a deeply symbolic element of modern folklore and is thus associated with its most common representation of the arched crown found in medieval heraldry.
But a diadem would technically still be a crown.
And since we're on the topic of coins... have you noticed how one of the Basileis of the Indo-Greeks looks like a lawyer in Victorian England? I'll get a screenshot as soon as I can, that's one of the funniest loading screens. Another Basileu from that list is wearing an elephant head as a crown (ahem), much like Alexander would have worn his lion-head helmet but that one just looks so wrong.
To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?
I love these forums - you always learn so much.
to Burebista for providing clear, concise, articulate, and polite education.
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Originally Posted by Potocello
This topic has nice information and some new knowledge for me.
Thank and cheer to ya'all.![]()
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Drunken chieftan said: Where the hell are those stupid horsemen of mine?
One of horsemen replied: We are all here, sir! However, you can't see us because you were fallen from your horse, sir.
To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?
Aww, I want a balloon too! What exactly do they do?
Also, I'm thinking you mean these guys.
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Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
- Proud Horseman of the Presence
Exactly, those two!
Now doesn't Antimachos look like a guy you might just as well call "Lord Hamilton"? And Demetrios like... something from Aliens?![]()
To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?
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Originally Posted by Potocello
Cheers, TTCM.
And Maion, thanks for the clarification about the kausia. As for the Elephant hat, I knew it must have had something or other to do with royalty. It just looked a bit bizarre, that's all.
To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?
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