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    well besides the European factions and native american factions what natives shall i be fighting on places like Arabia and Jerusalem like how would CA make those factions unique ?
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    You won't be fighting 'natives ' in Arabia or Jerusalem if by natives you mean tribes.

    The locals in this time period are The Ottoman Empire and the Saffavid Persian Empire. Both are very powerful factions.

    The Ottoman Empire in paticular is massive, powerful and just as advanced socially and technologically as any European faction, and they are playable as well.

    In North Africa you have The Empire of Fez and Morroco to the south of Spain, and East of them you have The Barbary States. Both factions are vassals/client kingdoms of the Ottoman Empire however.

    In India you have The Mughal Empire, a powerful and old Empire which was extremely rich. In South India you have Mysore and then the Maratha. The Mughal Empire or the Maratha may be playable (one or the other is.)

    Since two of the factions I mentioned will be one of the twelve playable they should be very unique. Basically they will have: unique units, unique buildings, a uniqe architectural style, unique clothing styles, unique voice acting (commands given on the battlefield in native languages) and possibly even a unique UI on the battle and campaign maps.

    The Middle-Eastern 'native' factions though will not fight any differently to a Western faction. They did not historically either. They'll be using lines of infantry armed with muskets just like everyone else. Maybe a few camels thrown in for variety.

    You won't be seeing natives in any other part of the world, since Asia, Africa and South America are not featured.

    Hope that helped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    You won't be fighting 'natives ' in Arabia or Jerusalem if by natives you mean tribes.

    The locals in this time period are The Ottoman Empire and the Saffavid Persian Empire. Both are very powerful factions.

    The Ottoman Empire in paticular is massive, powerful and just as advanced socially and technologically as any European faction, and they are playable as well.

    In North Africa you have The Empire of Fez and Morroco to the south of Spain, and East of them you have The Barbary States. Both factions are vassals/client kingdoms of the Ottoman Empire however.

    In India you have The Mughal Empire, a powerful and old Empire which was extremely rich. In South India you have Mysore and then the Maratha. The Mughal Empire or the Maratha may be playable (one or the other is.)

    Since two of the factions I mentioned will be one of the twelve playable they should be very unique. Basically they will have: unique units, unique buildings, a uniqe architectural style, unique clothing styles, unique voice acting (commands given on the battlefield in native languages) and possibly even a unique UI on the battle and campaign maps.

    The Middle-Eastern 'native' factions though will not fight any differently to a Western faction. They did not historically either. They'll be using lines of infantry armed with muskets just like everyone else. Maybe a few camels thrown in for variety.

    You won't be seeing natives in any other part of the world, since Asia, Africa and South America are not featured.

    Hope that helped.
    it did alot its a shame i cant use Bedouin Camel Riders but what iam thankful for CA doing is inculding the Sioux and Apache i cant wait to retake back the land that was taken from us
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    When I said native factions before I meant tribal factions as well like in America which was misleading, what about a native faction in Central Asia, the Russian Empire hadn't taken it by the starting date, so maybe they could add Kazakhs in and create Kazakhstan.
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    i would not mind that
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    There is a possiblity that the small tribes will still be represented as mercenary units for the Ottoman, so you might still be able to use Bedouin camelry and other tribal units.

    As for a smaller native faction in the Middle East it is a possibility, if you look near the Russia border on the 4th map in this thread you will see two small blobs of colour near the black sea.

    We don't know who exactly those factions are (one may be Georgia) so they could be something interesting.


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    I suspect they will be generic because I also suspect they won't be playable, but there could be a non-native Arabian faction though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenin96 View Post
    I suspect they will be generic because I also suspect they won't be playable, but there could be a non-native Arabian faction though.
    Two of them definitely ARE playable. The Ottoman Empire and either the Maratha or The Mughal.

    Also there were no factions in the Middle East that were not native to the area. Since there were ony two factions in the Middle East, the Ottoman and the Safavid.

    Check this map out, it illustrates what I mean. http://www.euratlas.com/history_euro..._map_1700.html
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    Well natives without their own faction would cover most of the German States and a few of the other minor European States.

    I know this is not what you had in mind but they will likely be generic in nature.

    Unfortunately Sub-Saharan Africa is not mapped so that most of what you are calling native factions will be the Amerindians and Indians proper, though the latter are part of larger factions.


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    Won't each area have its own rebel faction, though? IIRC, I don't think there's going to be a standard, large slave faction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    Won't each area have its own rebel faction, though? IIRC, I don't think there's going to be a standard, large slave faction...
    You are correct. CA have stated there will be region specific rebel factions, with no overall 'Rebel' or 'Slave' faction.

    Which is quite impressive really, I wonder how unique each rebel faction will be?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    Two of them definitely ARE playable. The Ottoman Empire and either the Maratha or The Mughal.

    Also there were no factions in the Middle East that were not native to the area. Since there were ony two factions in the Middle East, the Ottoman and the Safavid.

    Check this map out, it illustrates what I mean. http://www.euratlas.com/history_euro..._map_1700.html
    I suppose in central Arabia, there would be some nomadic tribes. Of course, I don't think there would be much of a reason to even bother attacking that area as petroleum wasn't needed a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noncommunist
    I don't think there would be much of a reason to even bother attacking that area as petroleum wasn't needed a lot.
    I suppose I'll flee to Arabia as a Native American faction when the Iroquois come knocking on my door. It'll only ever be good as a hiding place, methinks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    I suppose I'll flee to Arabia as a Native American faction when the Iroquois come knocking on my door. It'll only ever be good as a hiding place, methinks!
    Like Paul and Jessica in Dune? Maybe meet some desert tribes, become a religious figure and then sweep the rest of world in a glorious jihad?

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