A-Rod Tested Positive for 'Roids, SFTS World shattered.

[Hosakawa Tito]

See I don't think steroids are that big of a deal.

Wern't they legal and then the MLB went on this retroactive whichunt? Or am I remembering wrong.

Besides steroids don't make you better at the game nor are they some type of miracle cure.

In a game like baseball one must have the elite hand & eye coordination to succeed at a major league level. Steroids can't help you there. However, baseball is also a game of endurance. The season is very long. 162 regular season games long, plus preseason/offseason leagues and daily practice, and constant long distance travel. Most players suffer injury, fatigue and weight loss . Steroids help players recover from injury & muscle fatigue quicker, and also help maintain muscle mass for those that lose weight over the course of such a long season. IMO pitchers are most helped by using these substances because of the stresses their arms are subjected to with all the throwing they do. Considering the amount of money involved in professional sports it's only human nature for some to try and find any edge they can to compete. Using steroids as a training regimen instead of a short term medication for specific injury is not only cheating, but dangerous to the health of the athelete because of the side affects of these substances when used long-term. The appearance of cheating taints the achievements & records of any athlete, and is not in the best interests of sport. Using these substances as a training regimen is illegal now, but wasn't in 2003; you are correct. Some people's witchunts are another's search for truth.

Besides, Babe Ruth dominated his sport despite employing a training regimen of beer drinking, pizza & pasta overindulgence and chainsmoking cigars. kinda gives hope to the rest of us average joes.

[Strike For The South]

Both valid points, but isnt this just the game evolving. Why are steroids any different from anyother substance that has come onto the market that is legal.

You still need skill to play steroids don't give you talent.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Both valid points, but isnt this just the game evolving. Why are steroids any different from anyother substance that has come onto the market that is legal.

You still need skill to play steroids don't give you talent.

Yes, and to break many of the league records one must play at that high skill level for years, 15-20 years of stamina & good fortune to avoid a career ending injury. That's where steroid abusers will get an unfair advantage, and quite possibly damage their own future health in the process.

[Strike For The South]

Yes, and to break many of the league records one must play at that high skill level for years, 15-20 years of stamina & good fortune to avoid a career ending injury. That's where steroid abusers will get an unfair advantage, and quite possibly damage their own future health in the process.

There are unfair advantages in all sports now compared to even ten years ago. Why anabolic get such a bad rap is odd, don't you think?

The long term health effects are over exaggerated but thats for another time

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There are unfair advantages in all sports now compared to even ten years ago.

Like that guy who pitched a no hitter while on acid?

[Reverend Joe]

Like that guy who pitched a no hitter while on acid?

Please tell me who this is. That guy will be my hero forever.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Please tell me who this is. That guy will be my hero forever.

Dock Ellis:

"I was in Los Angeles, and the team was playing in San Diego , but I didn't know it. I had taken LSD..... I thought it was an off-day, that's how come I had it in me. I took the LSD at noon. At 1pm, his girlfriend and trip partner looked at the paper and said, "Dock, you're pitching today!"

"That's when it was $9.50 to fly to San Diego. She got me to the airport at 3:30. I got there at 4:30, and the game started at 6:05pm. It was a twi-night doubleheader.

I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria.

I was zeroed in on the (catcher's) glove, but I didn't hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters and the bases were loaded two or three times.

The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."

[Papewaio]

Both valid points, but isnt this just the game evolving. Why are steroids any different from anyother substance that has come onto the market that is legal.

You still need skill to play steroids don't give you talent.

Sports are a run on rules. They are in fact a more constricted subset of rules then what is allowed in general society. So if the rules for a sport say that only one offensive player can move then it is a foul if two of them do so. If the rules say no chainsaws on field, that is the rules.

If steroids have no benefit... then why spend up big and use them?

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Maybe one day we will develop a neo-steroid that has no negative side effects and will make the body repair damaged nerve cells only the way up to a broken neck. It will also improve red blood count and the ability of the body to use the oxygen, give a reptiles ability to manipulate heart beat and countless other things. We might find that you need to be using this for at least 3 months to mitigate a broken neck.

If such a substance existed we would have insurance companies making such a substance mandatory. But until that day, if the substance is illegal within a sport then it is cheating.