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    I've downloaded that mod and I'm gonna see if that works... yet I'm also gonna change the places and conditions for acquiring the legatus ancillaries. I've ssen that Atraphoenix used places where the legions had stationed for long - I'm going to change it to places where they had been levied and in more "historical" order.
    Thus the EOM's Legio XVI (Legio VII Paterna Claudia Pia Fidelis) will be the first one to be levied (first I wanted to renumber the legions and their banners, also with changing descriptions, buty it seems much easier to change the conditions for getting the Legati.
    However, the legionary ancillaries will not be restricted to Marian reforms, they will rather be tied to some number of captured provinces (as V.T. Marvin proposed), yet not as regularly; and some of them will be available "at instant".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Stalin View Post
    I've downloaded that mod and I'm gonna see if that works... yet I'm also gonna change the places and conditions for acquiring the legatus ancillaries. I've ssen that Atraphoenix used places where the legions had stationed for long - I'm going to change it to places where they had been levied and in more "historical" order.
    Thus the EOM's Legio XVI (Legio VII Paterna Claudia Pia Fidelis) will be the first one to be levied (first I wanted to renumber the legions and their banners, also with changing descriptions, buty it seems much easier to change the conditions for getting the Legati.
    However, the legionary ancillaries will not be restricted to Marian reforms, they will rather be tied to some number of captured provinces (as V.T. Marvin proposed), yet not as regularly; and some of them will be available "at instant".
    do not forget to change ancillary images names. at the moment legates have their own image like image
    LegioI belongs to Legio I Legio I Adiutrix

    here is the full list of images(banners) of legates:

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    Ancillary Name Ancillary Descriptions file name in UI Ancillary Folder
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    {Legatus_of_legioI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio I Adiutrix LegioI.tga
    {Legatus_of_legioII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio I Germanica LegioII.tga
    {Legatus_of_legioIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio II Adiutrix LegioIII.tga
    {Legatus_of_legioIV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio II Augusta LegioIV.tga
    {Legatus_of_legioV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio III Augusta goes on like this...
    {Legatus_of_legioVI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio III Cyrenaica
    {Legatus_of_legioVII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio III Gallica
    {Legatus_of_legioVIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio III Italica Concors
    {Legatus_of_legioIX} Legatus Legionis Per Legio II Traiana Fortis
    {Legatus_of_legioX} Legatus Legionis Per Legio I Minervia
    {Legatus_of_legioXI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio IV Flavia Felix
    {Legatus_of_legioXII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio IV Scythica
    {Legatus_of_legioXIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio IX Hispana
    {Legatus_of_legioXIV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio V Alaudae
    {Legatus_of_legioXV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio VI Ferrata
    {Legatus_of_legioXVI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
    {Legatus_of_legioXVII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio VII Gemina
    {Legatus_of_legioXVIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio VIII Augusta
    {Legatus_of_legioXIX} Legatus Legionis Per Legio VI Victrix
    {Legatus_of_legioXX} Legatus Legionis Per Legio V Macedonica
    {Legatus_of_legioXXI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio X Fretensis
    {Legatus_of_legioXXII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio X Gemina
    {Legatus_of_legioXXIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
    {Legatus_of_legioXXIV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XII Fulminata
    {Legatus_of_legioXXV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XIII Gemina
    {Legatus_of_legioXXVI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XIV Gemina
    {Legatus_of_legioXXVII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XV Apollinaris
    {Legatus_of_legioXXVIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XVI Flavia Firma
    {Legatus_of_legioXXIX} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XV Primigenia
    {Legatus_of_legioXXX} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XXII Deiotariana
    {Legatus_of_legioXXXI} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XXII Primigenia
    {Legatus_of_legioXXXII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XXI Rapax
    {Legatus_of_legioXXXIII} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XX Valeria Victrix
    {Legatus_of_legioXXXIV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio XXX Ulpia Victrix
    {Legatus_of_legioXXXV} Legatus Legionis Per Legio I Italica



    As I expressed in my first page my mod is not save game compatible with previous versions. So I advice anyone not to load a save game. Start a new campaign.

    P.S. I will work on Hayasdan and Carthage that have no offices. So I will not add any more offices for romans. I should find a phoenician dict. and a good book on Hayasdan Government. İf any idea plz help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atraphoenix
    do not forget to change ancillary images names. at the moment legates have their own image like image
    LegioI belongs to Legio I Legio I Adiutrix
    Yes, I've noticed that and made a list for my own... however it seems that it doesn't matter, in which order the ancillaries appear, am I right? (I still dunno what the attribute "electability" is used for), thus the easiest way will be to change conditions for ancillaries to be achieved - for exaple if I set conditions for LegioI = Legio I Adiutrix to be available when Rome has >50 provinces and an FM is in Segestica, while Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis (= LegioXVI) will be available in Capua and if Rome has >3 provinces, then I suppose that Legatus_of_LegioXVI will appear BEFORE Legatus_of_LegioI.
    And that will be OK for me.
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    Default Re: Extended Offices Mod

    you do not have to change anything except the line:

    and I_NumberOfSettlements seleucid > 49
    if you do like that you do not have change the order and you can code their occurance order.

    for city it is easy :

    and SettlementName Taras
    just change the city name.

    for electability: mostly it is for avoiding getting another ancillary. for detailed info you can ask ancillary guys. I keep it because my module for my mod was written by EB Team for Roman Governors and Seleucid Satraps. I just deleted trait triggers but I did not touch roman goverment and seleucid satrap section.

    do not forget if you change EDA you should start a new campaign. the save games works with previous ancillaries but you will not get any more ancillaries, tested confirmed. I have not gotten any ancillary for more than 10 years (40 turns) after I changed EDA on a save gave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Stalin View Post
    I still dunno what the attribute "electability" is used for.
    Electability is an attribute used in vanilla (where a Senate faction existed) to detrmine the likelihood that a character will get elected to one of those vanilla senate offices.

    As EB no longer uses this feature, they are free to use it for other purposes. All characters come with electability = 0 by default. The effect of a province or legate ancillary will raise this rating by some number (I guess it does not really matter how much, here at least by 11). Now the trigger to get any of those province or legate ancillaries contain a condition that the character has electability value less than 11 (or whatever). The result is, that a particular character cannot obtain more than one such ancillary (unless you transfer one on him manually), which makes sense and prevent spamming of several such ancillaries on one man when other conditions are met.

    At least this is my understanding of the use of this attribute. I admit it has puzzled me too for quite a while.

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    Hi all :)

    What's the difference between Extended Offices Mod V.2.2 and Extended Offices Mod V.2.1b

    Thanks :)
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    Default Re: Extended Offices Mod

    Basically the Extended Offices Mod V.2.1b gives you legionary ancillary since the beginning of the game (Camillan era) allowing you to have one legion for every three provinces conquered. Tha ancillaries look all the same, they differs only by legion number inscribed on them and gives you the names (in the ancillary description) in no particular order, just to keep track of your legions. Suitable for role-playing campaigns that do not dwell too strictly on historical timelines.

    The Extended Offices Mod V.2.2 gives you beautiful RS ancillaries for legions from Marian era onwards, with detailed historical descriptions matching the regions where each particular legion was originally raised or deployed. Suitable for those who love to re-play/re-create historical Roman Empire.

    In other respects the versions are identical IIRC.

    You could also download both, check the files and than decide which suits more to your preferences and install that one.

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    Marvin is right my own version is based on historical order. his adaptation is based on geographical order. Namely I stress time he stresses place.

    BTW, I just came to say hello as I made another mod that was too easy to mod even I do not count it as a mod then just a bit modification.

    I hope you all liked my mod. I will not here until Juli because of my vital exam.

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