Extended Offices Mod

[Atraphoenix]

modding ancillaries is easy part, what we need is Armenian equivalence of Commander-in-Chief in ancient Armenia.

[Nyz]

Hi Atra,

I just want to make some suggestions for the Hayasdan Office:

a) instead of the word Xsaçapāvan, I think the governor/Satrap in Hayasdan were called Marzpan / Marzban (Persian) or Marzpet (New armenian), from the word Marz (province) and pan / ban (keeper, in persian)

This is according to the type II and III government for Hayasdan in EB, which were called Arkaiakan Marz (royal satrapy / province) and Marz (Province). So, for the satrap of hayasdan, it can be named "Hayasdan Marzpet", instead of "Xsaçapāvan e Hayasdan"

So for the references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzpan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adminis...ons_of_Armenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzpanate_Period


Other Offices:

b) Hai Sparapet, equivalent to the Parthian "Eran Spahbed" (Commander-in-Chief)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparapet



c) Aspet (Master of the horse)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspet



d) Hazarapet, (Minister of the Interior, public works and finance), maybe equivalent to the Parthian "Hazarbed"

http://www.iranica.com/newsite/index.../v12f1082.html

Thanks

[Atraphoenix]

I have noted them, so I need to prapare a new release.
Thanks mate,
I wish I could find anyone who can give the same infos for Phoenicians (namely for carthage)..

[Nyz]

Hi Atra,

I noted that the Armenian call the region surround them by their local name, I'll list some, maybe it can help you to make the governor titles for Hayasdan.

Region Name in EB / Name of City in EB - Old Armenian

a) Hayasdan / Armavir – Hayasdan
b) Pokr Hayk / Ani-Kamah – Pokr Hayk’
c) Sophene / Karkathiokerta – Cop’k’
d) Aghvan / Kabalaka – Aghuank’
e) Adurbagadan / Phraaspa – Atrpatakan
f) Egrisi / Kotais – Lazistan
g) Kartli / Mtskheta – Vrastan
h) Kappadokia / Mazaka – Kapadovkia
i) Media / Ekbatana - Marastan
j) Persis / Persepolis – Parskastan
k) Assyrie / Eddesa – Asorik’
l) Mesopotamia / Seleukia – Miǰagetk’ (literally “middle river”)

I'll add more if i have the infos.

[Atraphoenix]

Hi Atra,

I noted that the Armenian call the region surround them by their local name, I'll list some, maybe it can help you to make the governor titles for Hayasdan.

Region Name in EB / Name of City in EB - Old Armenian

a) Hayasdan / Armavir – Hayasdan
b) Pokr Hayk / Ani-Kamah – Pokr Hayk’
c) Sophene / Karkathiokerta – Cop’k’
d) Aghvan / Kabalaka – Aghuank’
e) Adurbagadan / Phraaspa – Atrpatakan
f) Egrisi / Kotais – Lazistan
g) Kartli / Mtskheta – Vrastan
h) Kappadokia / Mazaka – Kapadovkia
i) Media / Ekbatana - Marastan
j) Persis / Persepolis – Parskastan
k) Assyrie / Eddesa – Asorik’
l) Mesopotamia / Seleukia – Miǰagetk’ (literally “middle river”)

I'll add more if i have the infos.

Lazistan is a middle age name for the Lazic kingdom that ruled easthern part of black sea reagion and around Batumi. Sakartvelo is our own name for Georgia but Kartli / Egrisi are latin names they even used iberia for the eastern part of modern Georgia. That is how we call her (I am georgian) but no idea how armenians. for others I see no problem. and we need a minister of finance and prime minister as we solved commander-in-chief.

PS. Armenian alphabet is harder to concert latin even harder than Georgian Alphabet.
It's unique, but I like uniqueness abut I have no chance to understand a person from Tbilisi. even our accents, is a nightmare for foreigners.

[Nyz]

Ohh I see.

I know that the native name for Georgia is Sakartvelo and the people called themselves kartvelebi.. As for Lazistan, I think it was derived from Persian word:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egrisi

Because of the Persian influence, I think the Armenian call that region "Lazistan".


For Kartli, I think Armenian call Georgia "Vrastan"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_Georgia


For other Offices, maybe you can check this:

http://www.iranica.com/newsite/index...v2f4a071a.html

Look at the section : "Iranian Loanwords in Armenian" beginning at paragraph "title are abundant....."
But I think the offices were used during the period of Sassanid, not enough evidence that the Offices were used before that....

[bigmilt16]

Great Mod,

I am using VT's adaptations and noticed something interesting... Only Senators with mid-high influence may be assigned an legionary flag. The tribune cannot merely leave a city to receive their assignment. I use this to roleplay a governor, praetor, or consul assigning legions to junior commanders.

Is there a particular trigger to actually receive the ancillary once I get the 3 new regions? Do I need a particular FM to get it?