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Silence Hunter 00:22 03-02-2009
I'm not 100% sure if I will be available all coming weekend (loads of parties, I love uni lol), but sign me up as I should be able to play during the periods between the partying.

I would play on the Hellenic side. Timezone - GMT. Probably will be available for a few test battles during the week, just need to install Hamachi again.

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antisocialmunky 02:09 03-02-2009
We need to create a few seperate groups since the unlicensed Hamachi only allows a max of 16 per channel.

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Βελισάριος 06:20 03-02-2009
Top o' the mornin', lads! 'Tis a good day to die!
We have our first match-ups. These were randomly distributed using the good ol' d8 (since we happened to, coincidentally, have 8 contestants on all sides. 3 of the Imperatores still haven't replied to my invitation though I saw they were active on the forums recently, the Strategoi who were supposed to battle them, if they haven't answered your messages you'll be given priority in the next round.

Before you begin
1. Contact each other via PM or however you see fit and establish a date and time for the battle, then inform myself, Βελισάριος via PM with your decision.
2. The jury will choose the map for each battle.
3. The attacking army for this round will be: The Romans. The Greeks will have to hold their position as the Romans try to break it (next round it will be other way around).
4. After you've slaughtered each other, save the replay in the following format [Attacking General's name]vs[Defending General's name][Date of battle:ddmm].rpy, using the names you have on the forum (e.g.: TolgvsHunGeneral0203.rpy for a battle that took place today, March 2nd, ScipioAfricanusvsHannibal0910.rpy, etc.)

So... here are the first round's opponents:
1. Antisocialmunky vs. IrishHitman (It was random, I swear! If you two still have connection issues, let me know)
2. Alexanderthegreater vs. Potocello (So, the one with the Greek name plays Rome and the one with an Italian-like name is the Greek... how messed up is that?)
3. Blxz vs. Gabeed (the two guys with my two favourite signatures)
4. Rootje vs. BurningEGO (EGO, if Rootje doesn't reply, PM me)
5. We shall fwee...Wodewick vs. Silence Hunter (Hunter, same situation)
6. TWFanatic vs. Maion Maroneios (watch the jury member be put to shame. Maion, TWF hasn't replied, you know the drill)
7. Tolg vs. Phalanx300 (I believe you two have met)
8. Fluvius Camillus vs. Tsidneku (somehow the two last minute entries have found each other)

I'll send a score of PMs myself to make sure everyone's informed.

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alexanderthegreater 08:23 03-02-2009
Potocello can u play via regular MP? id prefer that, otherwise ill go install hamachi.

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Maion Maroneios 11:39 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Βελισάριος:
6. TWFanatic vs. Maion Maroneios (watch the jury member be put to shame. Maion, TWF hasn't replied, you know the drill)
Hey, are you trying to intimidate and humiliate me before the battle? We shall see, when the sons of mighty Makedon shall speak for themselves on the battlefield

EDIT: Since I've never actually played any online battles (except LAN ones), could someone (*cough*antisocialmunky*cough*) please explain how this 'Hamachi' thing works?

Maion

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Tolg 14:04 03-02-2009
Check my guide, ask if you got any problems:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
This guide is written so that anyone can understand it. Please just ignore the obvious bits.


I. Guide to play EB over the Internet using RTW online game feature

  1. Make sure that you have a clean install of:
    • RTW + Patch 1.3 + Patch 1.5
    • EB 1.1
    • EB 1.2
    • The EB 1.2 Fixes

    (Installed in this order)
  2. Check if your firewall allows RTW to access the Internet.
  3. Start EB using the multiplayer .exe
  4. Click "Multiplayer"
  5. Click "Online Battles"
  6. If it asks you to enter your CD key, click "Change CD key" and enter the key of your copy of RTW
  7. Afterwards click "Online battles" again.
  8. When it asks you to enter your name do so (preferably the name you use on the forums so your opponent can recognize you)
  9. You should now be in the Lobby and your screen should look somewhat like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    In order to play an online battle, one player has to "host" a game and the other one has to "join" it.
  10. a) If you're the one joining just check all the three servers (Chat Lobby, Competitive and Friendly) in the box at the bottom right for a yellow game name, if there are multiple ones check the host's name by placing your cursor on top of the game's entry in the list.
    b) If you're the one hosting, click the icon with the two screens. Your screen will look like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    . Enter a name for your game, select the max. number of players and the unit scale and then press "Host Custom Battle". (You don't need a password) Afterwards do what you would do if you were setting up a sp custom battle.
  11. After both players have joined select your factions, press the arrow in the corner at the bottom right, set up your armies press the arrow again and FIGHT!
  12. Don't forget to save the replay once your done!



II. Guide to play EB over the Internet using Hamachi

  1. See step 1) and 2) of the previous guide.
  2. Download Hamachi
  3. Install Hamachi and read it's tutorial. It only tales ~2 minutes but helps a lot.
  4. a) Create a Hamachi network (press the triangul button at the bottom left of the Hamachi window, select create network, enter the name and a password and hit OK)
    b) Join the network that was created by your opponent. (The triangular button again, join network and enter name and pw of the network)
  5. Now it get's tricky:
  6. Cut your main internet connection.
  7. Start EB using the mp .exe and click "Multiplayer" and "Lan Battle"
  8. Minimize your game (Alt + Tab or Alt + Esc)
  9. Reenable your Internet connection
  10. return to the game and do as described in the previous guide (Step 8).
  11. [B]Don't forget to save the replay once your done!


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antisocialmunky 14:12 03-02-2009
You don't actually ahve to cut your connection anymore.

Just start Hamachi, start RTW, and then go into Lan Battles.

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Tolg 14:16 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
You don't actually ahve to cut your connection anymore.

Just start Hamachi, start RTW, and then go into Lan Battles.

Usually, yes. But sometimes it doesn't work (~10% of my battles), that's why it's still in the guide.

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antisocialmunky 14:32 03-02-2009
Say, do you know how to solve connectivity issues? I can connect to everyone fine but I can't ping them and some of them I can't connect to. I think it might just be windows firewall blocking pings so I dunno. I did try to host a game with someone that couldn't ping me and it seemed to work.

BTW- we need to do a 2 vs 2 one of these days.

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Tychon Miletou Ionikes 15:42 03-02-2009
Hello all, I'm new to this site but was reading over this thread and downloaded a few replays to see what this was all about. Great stuff, some very enjoyable replays, in particular the battle outside the temple of Artemis at Ephesus. Great stuff! Poor Kataphraktoi .

Will this be getting its own sub forum or anything of that nature?

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Βελισάριος 16:40 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Tychon Miletou Ionikes:
...Great stuff, some very enjoyable replays, in particular the battle outside the temple of Artemis at Ephesus. Great stuff! Poor Kataphraktoi .
Damnit, don't even remind me!

Originally Posted by :
Will this be getting its own sub forum or anything of that nature?
We hope so. I'll wait till I get the results of the first tournament so can assure the powers at be that this is not a dung tossing competitio but a serious tournament. So then we might have our own subforum and expand on the idea.

Would you be interested in joining?

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Fluvius Camillus 16:41 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Tolg:
Check my guide, ask if you got any problems:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
This guide is written so that anyone can understand it. Please just ignore the obvious bits.


I. Guide to play EB over the Internet using RTW online game feature

  1. Make sure that you have a clean install of:
    • RTW + Patch 1.3 + Patch 1.5
    • EB 1.1
    • EB 1.2
    • The EB 1.2 Fixes

    (Installed in this order)
  2. Check if your firewall allows RTW to access the Internet.
  3. Start EB using the multiplayer .exe
  4. Click "Multiplayer"
  5. Click "Online Battles"
  6. If it asks you to enter your CD key, click "Change CD key" and enter the key of your copy of RTW
  7. Afterwards click "Online battles" again.
  8. When it asks you to enter your name do so (preferably the name you use on the forums so your opponent can recognize you)
  9. You should now be in the Lobby and your screen should look somewhat like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    In order to play an online battle, one player has to "host" a game and the other one has to "join" it.
  10. a) If you're the one joining just check all the three servers (Chat Lobby, Competitive and Friendly) in the box at the bottom right for a yellow game name, if there are multiple ones check the host's name by placing your cursor on top of the game's entry in the list.
    b) If you're the one hosting, click the icon with the two screens. Your screen will look like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    . Enter a name for your game, select the max. number of players and the unit scale and then press "Host Custom Battle". (You don't need a password) Afterwards do what you would do if you were setting up a sp custom battle.
  11. After both players have joined select your factions, press the arrow in the corner at the bottom right, set up your armies press the arrow again and FIGHT!
  12. Don't forget to save the replay once your done!



II. Guide to play EB over the Internet using Hamachi

  1. See step 1) and 2) of the previous guide.
  2. Download Hamachi
  3. Install Hamachi and read it's tutorial. It only tales ~2 minutes but helps a lot.
  4. a) Create a Hamachi network (press the triangul button at the bottom left of the Hamachi window, select create network, enter the name and a password and hit OK)
    b) Join the network that was created by your opponent. (The triangular button again, join network and enter name and pw of the network)
  5. Now it get's tricky:
  6. Cut your main internet connection.
  7. Start EB using the mp .exe and click "Multiplayer" and "Lan Battle"
  8. Minimize your game (Alt + Tab or Alt + Esc)
  9. Reenable your Internet connection
  10. return to the game and do as described in the previous guide (Step 8).
  11. [B]Don't forget to save the replay once your done!
Exactly the same situation as maion, so thanks for the info.

Good I can still join the tournament, I will be Romani player if that's the one you are short on.

GMT +1 is the zone I live in.

I don't really have large amounts of empty time now. I will discuss this with my opponent perhaps.

Good luck to everyone!

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Tolg 17:32 03-02-2009
The first battle of the tournament has already been played.

Tolg vs Phalanx300:

Replay

Phalanx was defending with a minor height advantage, my Principes engaged his Hoplitai while my Pedites Extraord. and my cavalry flanked him on the left. The Pedites were caught up n battle with some more of his Hoplitai but my cav was successful, routed his inferior cav and then finally charge the backs of his phalanx, causing his defeat.


To sum it up:

Romans: 1
Greeks: 0


Of course only if I the jury approves.


Actually I made a minor faux pas: Perhaps this game shouldn't have been played before the maps were officially announced, I hopes it's valid nonetheless. (The majority of the jury already voted in favor of "Mount Olympus" anyway)

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Fluvius Camillus 18:13 03-02-2009
Alright, I started the normal MP screen with a valid cd key.

Are there any recruitment restrictions?

Do I have to download hamachi? Or only if my opponent uses it, and what exactly is hamachi and what does it do?

Looking forward to the fight!

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antisocialmunky 18:22 03-02-2009
Hey, Burebista - can you compile all the replays in the first post? The jsut for fun ones and the tournement ones? Be great for hte audience.

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Βελισάριος 18:22 03-02-2009
Yes, Tolg... Olympus was pretty much the consensus for that battle. Unless HunGeneral disagrees, in which case you're screwed :p

Kidding.
I'll post the other maps soon. I still need an alternative for Thermopylai. Can't understand why you guys don't like it... it's much better than the "Danube Delta", for instance.

Fluvius, check the thread's intro message, you have a comprehensive guide to multiplayer, plus the extensive rules over there, which you must read.

EDIT: Will do, munk. Thanks for the idea.

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Tolg 19:04 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Βελισάριος:
Yes, Tolg... Olympus was pretty much the consensus for that battle. Unless HunGeneral disagrees, in which case you're screwed :p
Gotta bribe HunGeneral. You think one or two villages in Gallia Transalpina will be enough? ;)

Originally Posted by Βελισάριος:
I'll post the other maps soon. I still need an alternative for Thermopylai. Can't understand why you guys don't like it... it's much better than the "Danube Delta", for instance.
Dnube Delta seems somewhat plain, but fair.
Also I already suggested "enter the colossus".

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IrishHitman 20:23 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Βελισάριος:
So... here are the first round's opponents:
1. Antisocialmunky vs. IrishHitman It was random, I swear!
How it came to be is irrelevent.
All that matters is that it has happened.

If I get an Irish map, munkey is ****ed....

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HunGeneral 20:27 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Tolg:
Gotta bribe HunGeneral. You think one or two villages in Gallia Transalpina will be enough? ;)
Well... actually three is the Hunnic justice but two might do for Saka outposts until I get the rest of the hordes there...

Now seriously: I have no problem with Mount olympos (don't know the maps but since all others agreed it must accepteable - more in PM)

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IrishHitman 20:57 03-02-2009
Originally Posted by Βελισάριος:
Yes, Tolg... Olympus was pretty much the consensus for that battle. Unless HunGeneral disagrees, in which case you're screwed :p

Kidding.
I'll post the other maps soon. I still need an alternative for Thermopylai. Can't understand why you guys don't like it... it's much better than the "Danube Delta", for instance.

Fluvius, check the thread's intro message, you have a comprehensive guide to multiplayer, plus the extensive rules over there, which you must read.

EDIT: Will do, munk. Thanks for the idea.
I don't mind Thermopylae..

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Phalanx300 22:01 03-02-2009
Irish vs Anti, I'd certainly want to see the replay of those rivals!

And has Thermopylae at this time changed much from that of the Greek-Persian wars? Since in EB it is portrayed as very wide with alot of trees.

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SwissBarbar 22:03 03-02-2009
I thought of joining in too, but I've never played multiplayer before. Today I logged in through the multiplayer-exe or how you call that. But everyone was using BI and I couldn't join in

Am I really the only underdeveloped one, who still uses the original RTW-exe or what's going on

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Phalanx300 22:08 03-02-2009
No, it just looks like that when you do that. All the people and games you see are vanilla players(god have their soul).

Anyways, you should try hamachi, that way you can play games with lan.

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SwissBarbar 22:21 03-02-2009
If I start Hamachi, then start RTW (or do I have to start the Multiplayer-exe?) and click on Multiplayer - Lan ... yeah.. what then?

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Phalanx300 22:27 03-02-2009
Install Hamachi, look if there are people online and see if they want to play. If so start up EB Multiplayer, go to lan and type in your name. Press okey and your in the lobby and can play there with other players.

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Tolg 22:28 03-02-2009
Just check my guide and tell me if you've got any questions:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
This guide is written so that anyone can understand it. Please just ignore the obvious bits.


I. Guide to play EB over the Internet using RTW online game feature

  1. Make sure that you have a clean install of:
    • RTW + Patch 1.3 + Patch 1.5
    • EB 1.1
    • EB 1.2
    • The EB 1.2 Fixes

    (Installed in this order)
  2. Check if your firewall allows RTW to access the Internet.
  3. Start EB using the multiplayer .exe
  4. Click "Multiplayer"
  5. Click "Online Battles"
  6. If it asks you to enter your CD key, click "Change CD key" and enter the key of your copy of RTW
  7. Afterwards click "Online battles" again.
  8. When it asks you to enter your name do so (preferably the name you use on the forums so your opponent can recognize you)
  9. You should now be in the Lobby and your screen should look somewhat like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    In order to play an online battle, one player has to "host" a game and the other one has to "join" it.
  10. a) If you're the one joining just check all the three servers (Chat Lobby, Competitive and Friendly) in the box at the bottom right for a yellow game name, if there are multiple ones check the host's name by placing your cursor on top of the game's entry in the list.
    b) If you're the one hosting, click the icon with the two screens. Your screen will look like this:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    . Enter a name for your game, select the max. number of players and the unit scale and then press "Host Custom Battle". (You don't need a password) Afterwards do what you would do if you were setting up a sp custom battle.
  11. After both players have joined select your factions, press the arrow in the corner at the bottom right, set up your armies press the arrow again and FIGHT!
  12. Don't forget to save the replay once your done!



II. Guide to play EB over the Internet using Hamachi

  1. See step 1) and 2) of the previous guide.
  2. Download Hamachi
  3. Install Hamachi and read it's tutorial. It only tales ~2 minutes but helps a lot.
  4. a) Create a Hamachi network (press the triangul button at the bottom left of the Hamachi window, select create network, enter the name and a password and hit OK)
    b) Join the network that was created by your opponent. (The triangular button again, join network and enter name and pw of the network)
  5. Now it get's tricky:
  6. Cut your main internet connection.
  7. Start EB using the mp .exe and click "Multiplayer" and "Lan Battle"
  8. Minimize your game (Alt + Tab or Alt + Esc)
  9. Reenable your Internet connection
  10. return to the game and do as described in the previous guide (Step 8).
  11. [B]Don't forget to save the replay once your done!


The main network used is the "Europa Barbarorum" (PW: greecevsrome), though I'm afraid this one will be full soon. (Or perhaps it already is)

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SwissBarbar 22:33 03-02-2009
Puh, cutting internetconnection? Reenable your internetconnection? I'm a noob. I think I'm going to use the first way you described *G*

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Phalanx300 22:35 03-02-2009
Well you don't have to do that, with me it works just fine if I just start up EB with Hamachi installed.

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SwissBarbar 22:40 03-02-2009
someone ready for a try?

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SwissBarbar 22:49 03-02-2009
mhkay I'm going to bed

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