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    WHHHHHHHHHHAT?


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    The only thin line that keeps me from madness...is the hope of a demo
    So I do not get it, what is the big deal about getting a demo far ahead of the game release? I can see wanting one a week or half a week before game release so you can play it and see if you like it before you purchase it, but if you are gonna be getting the game so soon already, why insist on the demo for a few hours of limited play? It just doesn't make much sense to me... (*Treebeard voice* Then again, my brain is very small...perhaps your right.)
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    So I do not get it, what is the big deal about getting a demo far ahead of the game release? I can see wanting one a week or half a week before game release so you can play it and see if you like it before you purchase it, but if you are gonna be getting the game so soon already, why insist on the demo for a few hours of limited play? It just doesn't make much sense to me... (*Treebeard voice* Then again, my brain is very small...perhaps your right.)
    We are not getting the game that soon, we are getting the game March 3 or 4 depending on where you live.

    So that means, if I count days, today is 11, you've got 20 or 21 days before release.

    Which means you've got OVER, 2 weeks before the game is released.

    2 weeks when nothing else is out. 2 weeks of sheer and utter boredom.

    So let's say they release it on friday the 13th, just to be ominous. You get 2 full weeks of demo, then the game. So if it has two battles, like it normally does. You get a battle each week

    Win win for everyone

    I got the demos for all the TW games going back to shogun, rarely did they bore me in a day or so,

    Thus, I want...

    a

    DEMO

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    Guys, just keep it civil. Not in terms of attacking each other, but post length and content. The sticky should remind you Polemists, no more large posts like 3 above me please.

    Im hopeful for a demo on the 16th, the day after my birthday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    Guys, just keep it civil. Not in terms of attacking each other, but post length and content. The sticky should remind you Polemists, no more large posts like 3 above me please.

    Im hopeful for a demo on the 16th, the day after my birthday!
    lol, was it uncivil at any point? I did not notice. :P
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    I'm not spamming demo I am discussing the demo, other then the single post that said a demo, there is no spamming.

    The entire thread is called demo release.

    So when someone says why is there no demo or maybe we don't need one, I have a right to reply.

    and to defend the honor of demo.

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    Originally posted by Polemists
    The entire thread is called demo release.

    So when someone says why is there no demo or maybe we don't need one, I have a right to reply.

    and to defend the honor of demo.
    Very democratic of you.

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    Reread my post.
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    post length and content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polemists View Post
    So let's say they release it on friday the 13th, just to be ominous.
    "Sailors were particularly superstitious … often refusing to ship out to sea on a Friday. According to legend, in the 18th century, the British Navy commissioned a ship called the H.M.S. Friday in order to quell the superstition. The navy selected the crew on a Friday, launched the ship on a Friday and even selected a man named James Friday as the ship's captain. Then, one Friday morning, the ship set off on its maiden voyage – and disappeared forever." Urban () legend

    Let's hope the demo isn't also a hoax.
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    Apparently now the consensus is that the demo is a leaked demo video given to the press a month ago. Is it or not? I dunno

    The Aus guy (who was qutoed earlier about demo) is back, and apparently people are discussing this over at steams forums.

    So if you want official news, i'd suggest you go read over there.

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    burning coal under some peoples sit - heh.

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    OFFICIAL DEMO NEWs

    http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/42290


    Where to start? Well first of all yes we are aware a version of our incomplete demo code has been leaked via Steam. We had great fun watching it being played live on webcam, I can assure you.

    The easiest way to address all this is to do a short QA style format, any subsequent questions please just ask and I'll answer.

    i. If the demo was ready and on steam why didn't you just release it?

    The demo was on Steam only for testing purposes, we knew there was a small chance it could become public if someone found the right way to get at it and someone did. It's since been removed. It wasn't ready for a public release and we have a bit more to do on it. We were testing to ensure that when a demo is released nobody has any problems accessing and authenticating it via Steam. It's slightly dangerous code security wise but at some point we had to test it.

    ii. Why did you close all the threads and info on the demo?

    The real answer is 'duplication'. Having a leak is embarrasing but it's not too bad. We just didn't want the method of 'how' to be shared. We're aware everyone wants the code and the demo but this isn't ready yet. It might look ready, but there is genuinly more to do. Hence we needed to ensure the 'how to' isn't rapidly duplicated before we can remove the code. We don't want thousands of you having incomplete code. I know it's maddening, but think of it like this: We take pride in polishing things at CA, even if its behind the code stuff that goes unseen, it's important to us that quality is our top priority (You may remember we even moved the release date for this reason) so please understand this is our love and we don't do 'just good enough', with demos or full releases.

    iii. When will we get the demo we want?

    I'm not toying with you when I say very soon. It really isn't too far away. Annoyingly I can't put a date on it, because development is not a quantative process. There will be a demo for general release and it will be soon, it's not a hype machine it's quality control.

    iv. What about the guy that did it?

    I want to say something a little controversial here. The exploit was our weakness, and as long as he didn't break any user agreements or laws in getting hold of the demo via Steam then there's no issue here, but that is for Valve to confirm not me. From CA's point of view I want to give the guy my thanks and respect that he's said he deliberately won't pirate the incomplete demo he's got out of respect for the game, I hope he stays true to that statement. He was also really rather complimentary in his commentary whilst playing live and whilst I can't condone or encourage what he did I would suggest that when demoing live one should always try grouping ships in custom formation (Organise then hit g on selected ships) and also account for the wind a little more when playing. In all seriousness, I can't speak about any potential legal issues but what I can say from the dev perspective is, we hoped you liked it (Those watching as well as him playing) despite it being unfinished and thanks for respecting our game and our community at large by ceasing broadcast and not redistributing. We'd ask that that be the end of the matter so we can leave it in the friendly spirit it's at now.

    Now, let the questions and statements begin!

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    Bad news:

    We still don't have demo

    Good news:

    The demo will involve ships

    Also now you don't have soon, you have "Very soon" so it's closer then it used to be
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