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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    Otherwise I wouldn't be able to watch any American movie or show with a British character, because they always have us Brits sounding like upper class twits. And to be honest no one I know sounds anything like that.

    Are you sure about that? Every time I see a talk show or documentary on the Beeb they all pretty much sound like that.

    Odd.
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    Are you sure about that? Every time I see a talk show or documentary on the Beeb they all pretty much sound like that.

    Odd.
    It's no suprise the BBC sounds like that, they make an effort to get people who speak RP English (like The Queen). Talk shows tend to have more regional accents now however.

    I live in Derbyshire, which is a rather rural part of England and has one of the oldest (and oddest) accents. Speaking Queen's English will get you funny looks around these parts. I know that from personal experience (apparently I sound 'a bit posh' ).

    England's a small country, but we have plenty of variation in accents.


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    First I think it is a great thing that CA wants to let troops bark in their own language. While dialects would be nice I think it is fair to imagine that the officers tried to speak the standard language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    It's no suprise the BBC sounds like that, they make an effort to get people who speak RP English (like The Queen). Talk shows tend to have more regional accents now however.

    I live in Derbyshire, which is a rather rural part of England and has one of the oldest (and oddest) accents. Speaking Queen's English will get you funny looks around these parts. I know that from personal experience (apparently I sound 'a bit posh' ).

    England's a small country, but we have plenty of variation in accents.

    I didn't really even take notice of this sort of thing until I was watching Doctor Who (Stop judging me!!) and everyone asked Christopher Eccleston why he had a northern accent (to which his response was always, "A lot of places have a north."). British generally sounded British to me, with the only distinction being "high class" British as opposed to "low-class" British, all of which I subsumed under the term "cockney." After that I really began to pay attention and noticed the distinct differences in the regional dialects of England. Fascinating subject, really.

    If the English of the 18th century sounded closer to modern Americans than to modern English, which modern Americans do linguists think they sounded like? There are a lot of different accents in North America, of course. Canadians sound different from New Englanders, Minnesotans sound different from people from the Mid-Atlantic, etc. Do linguists think they would have sounded closest to the mid-atlantic/Virginia tidewater accent, as someone suggested (it does sound very genteel, by the way)?

    EDIT: I've followed the link on the previous page and am seeing that my question has already been discussed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sisco Americanus View Post
    I didn't really even take notice of this sort of thing until I was watching Doctor Who (Stop judging me!!) and everyone asked Christopher Eccleston why he had a northern accent (to which his response was always, "A lot of places have a north."). British generally sounded British to me, with the only distinction being "high class" British as opposed to "low-class" British, all of which I subsumed under the term "cockney." After that I really began to pay attention and noticed the distinct differences in the regional dialects of England. Fascinating subject, really.

    If the English of the 18th century sounded closer to modern Americans than to modern English, which modern Americans do linguists think they sounded like? There are a lot of different accents in North America, of course. Canadians sound different from New Englanders, Minnesotans sound different from people from the Mid-Atlantic, etc. Do linguists think they would have sounded closest to the mid-atlantic/Virginia tidewater accent, as someone suggested (it does sound very genteel, by the way)?
    Good questions all!

    Again most of those questions are answered here:

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=112364

    But definitely NOT Virginia Tidewater.

    Of the time “merchant” would sound like marchent for one. The Rs were hard and pronounced. The accent would have sounded closer to Irish in that regard.

    As for sounds closest try back woods Tennessee and the hills of Arkansas. Tidewater’s hidden Rs and soft soft vowels are owed most to African-American influences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking
    And what about the Native American factions? If the Sioux and the Iroquois are speaking the same language…well some of us will know!
    The'll probably only have the "playable" factions speak in their native tongues, while the rest will say nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sisco Americanus
    Canadians sound different from New Englanders-
    I think it's very funny that you should classify people of countless nationalities spread across a whole friggen continent in one of the world's largest countries under a single accent. Do you realize how many different "Canadian" accents there are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
    I think it's very funny that you should classify people of countless nationalities spread across a whole friggen continent in one of the world's largest countries under a single accent. Do you realize how many different "Canadian" accents there are?
    Having grown up within three miles of the Canadian border, visiting all the time and quite often enjoying CBC, yes I am well aware that it is a land of many varied manners of English speech (not to mention French). For that matter, people from different parts of the mid-atlantic or New England speak differently as well. I just didn't want to forget about our cousins to the north when asking which "American" accent was closest to 18th century English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    I live in Derbyshire, which is a rather rural part of England and has one of the oldest (and oddest) accents. Speaking Queen's English will get you funny looks around these parts. I know that from personal experience (apparently I sound 'a bit posh' ).

    I just wanted to thank you Sir Beane. My wife just chewed me out because I mispronounced Derbyshire. For those of you who don't know (Like me) it's pronounced Darbishur.

    Why can't you Brits speak a civilized language???? LOL

    This is my ongoing battle with the South African Wife who hates it when I call her a snooty Brit.

    Back on Topic
    I think CA is bound to disappoint all of us in some aspect on the game. There are several hundred thousand of us and only one game. If all they muck up (wife's influence on word choice) is some accents, I can live with it.

    Still can't wait for the game.

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