USS Constitution?

**NimitsTexan** · 02-12-2009, 19:12

Is there a way for a US buyer to get both the USS Constitution and the Special Forces/Collector's Edition.

**Sir Beane** · 02-12-2009, 19:13

Originally Posted by NimitsTexan

Is there a way for a US buyer to get both the USS Constitution and the Special Forces/Collector's Edition.

Order the game from Play.com and get it shipped to you. I think they will ship to the US (you may want to check though.)

I imagine that certain US stores may offer special units, big ones like Wal-Mart etc. Youll have to check closer to release.

**Sheogorath** · 02-12-2009, 19:21

Just wait until the modders get a hold of the game.
I imagine you'll be able to download packs of unique ships, units, and so forth pretty quickly. Unless the US navy steps in and says they have to pay to depict the Constitution.

**Lusitani** · 02-12-2009, 19:49

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

... Unless the US navy steps in and says they have to pay to depict the Constitution.

That wouldn't surprise me actually. I remember when, probably the best WWII sim had problems with several US aircraft manufacturers due to the fact that planes over 50 years old were used in the sim.
That was IL2-Sturmovik btw.

V.

**pyradyn** · 02-12-2009, 20:01

For special additions just go to Gamestop and pre-order the game. Walmart will not take pre-orders they are walmart and they will only be getting in the normal 50 buck addition. It is 70 dollars for the pre-order and the only way to physically get the collecters addition here. Also a lot of small game stores like some in my area Gamers anonymous and Play N Trade will take pre-orders. Even though GA usually only sells NES SNES Sega PS1 and N64 games they do a few pc. Online or Steam is only other way but online has shipping costs too. Plus International shipping is always fun....

**Belgolas** · 02-12-2009, 22:04

Well I bought a game that had an exclusive edition only available in Europe and it had like 9 buck shipping and arived sooner then most stuff from the States (I live in Canada). Also I didn't have to pay brokerage fees. So I prefer to order from them if it is an exclusive to Europe.
http://www.game.co.uk/search.aspx?pl...t=itemOrderasc

You get a free unit for pre purchasing called the Death's Head Hussars.

**Barkhorn1x** · 02-12-2009, 22:36

Originally Posted by Lusitani

That wouldn't surprise me actually. I remember when, probably the best WWII sim had problems with several US aircraft manufacturers due to the fact that planes over 50 years old were used in the sim.
That was IL2-Sturmovik btw.

V.

Off topic - sorry to waste bandwidth.

The issue there was that instead of using the a/c names like Wildcat and Avenger, UBI Soft went ahead and used the name Grumman Wildcat and Grumman Avenger. And Northrop-Grumman got all in a huff and claimed TM infringement (how they get to trademark the names of US taxpayer purchased stuff is anybodies guess). They worked out a deal in the end where they would not sue and have UBI remove the content - BUT - UBI just decided that this was the end of any american a/c additions to the franchise. So we missed out on a great looking TBD Devastator and a number of other a/c.

A real shame.

**ThePianist** · 02-17-2009, 00:43

Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x

Off topic - sorry to waste bandwidth.

The issue there was that instead of using the a/c names like Wildcat and Avenger, UBI Soft went ahead and used the name Grumman Wildcat and Grumman Avenger. And Northrop-Grumman got all in a huff and claimed TM infringement (how they get to trademark the names of US taxpayer purchased stuff is anybodies guess). They worked out a deal in the end where they would not sue and have UBI remove the content - BUT - UBI just decided that this was the end of any american a/c additions to the franchise. So we missed out on a great looking TBD Devastator and a number of other a/c.

A real shame.

A real shame. They don't have trademark infringement unless someone builds an actual thing with the parts. Why can't I paint a Grumman Wildcat and Grumman Avenger painting and sell it? Isn't Coca Cola a trademark of that company? It's also the exact complete name of the product. How come I can make a movie with Coca Cola in it, and sell the movie and that's OK?

What about people in movies saying Name-of-Car, Number-Year, that's the exact complete name of that product. What about people in movies saying Name-of-wine/beer, Number-year, that's also the exact complete name of that product. What about games with Colt .45, Colt M-16 and Springfield 1907? Those are exact complete names. What about tank sims, and flight sims and car sims. There would be so many fees if everyone was a crook like Northrop Grumman (and, they aren't even competitive anymore, or I think they were bought by Boeing, or something). UbiSoft should counter-sue, and get hassle fee from Northrop Grumman.

Also, since the government belongs to the people, government property is public property, and you don't trademark public property. Like, the White House, the Capitol Hill, the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress, the Mount Rushmore, they may be built at expense and maybe by private enterprises, but once they are done building they are public property, the name and image thereof, or should I say, the knowledge of the name and the image is public property, and you don't have to pay to mention the name or depict them in painting (video game = 3D painting).

**Sheogorath** · 02-12-2009, 23:44

Originally Posted by Lusitani

That wouldn't surprise me actually. I remember when, probably the best WWII sim had problems with several US aircraft manufacturers due to the fact that planes over 50 years old were used in the sim.
That was IL2-Sturmovik btw.

V.

I dont think the manufacturers of the USS Constitution are around anymore.

**Fisherking** · 02-12-2009, 23:56

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

I dont think the manufacturers of the USS Constitution are around anymore.

Sure they are…the US Government…though the shipyard is closed…

**ScipioAfricanus** · 02-13-2009, 08:30

Originally Posted by NimitsTexan

Is there a way for a US buyer to get both the USS Constitution and the Special Forces/Collector's Edition.

NimitsTexan,
According to totalwar.com (under Pre-Order), the U.S.S. Constitution is available as an in-game download when E:TW is pre-ordered or purchased from Best Buy. However, I see no mention of that on the BB website.

The totalwar site also shows that the Special Forces Edition can be pre-ordered via Steam. I saw no mention of the SF Edition on Best Buy's site but Amazon has both editions listed (no mention of the Constitution download though).

There may be some other places offering the in-game download but the three that I mentioned are the only ones that I checked.