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    Default Re: Should we restrict freedom of speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    2. Not all opinions should be protected by law. F.e. libels, fearmongering, flag desecration, perjury.
    Well there are many who would disagree with you. Libels are an interesting case, and I at least one far left commentator refuses to sue people for libel. Flag Desecration is something that I have absolutely no problems with. Perjury is interesting, but this is a case where an opinion is at stake, not an out-and-out lie with the intent of defrauding the court system.
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    Well there are many who would disagree with you. Libels are an interesting case, and I at least one far left commentator refuses to sue people for libel. Flag Desecration is something that I have absolutely no problems with. Perjury is interesting, but this is a case where an opinion is at stake, not an out-and-out lie with the intent of defrauding the court system.
    If you don't agree with them it doesn't mean they are not illegal in many countries.

    And you're right about perjury but it appears in a form of opinion, how one recalls the events of the past.
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    Default Re: Should we restrict freedom of speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    If you don't agree with them it doesn't mean they are not illegal in many countries.
    Just because it is illegal in many countries doesn't mean I can't disagree with the reasons for its illegality.
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    And you're right about perjury but it appears in a form of opinion, how one recalls the events of the past.
    But it calls into question the very nature of the legal system and is nothing but lies - hence it isn't truly an opinion - it is just a falsehood.
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    Just because it is illegal in many countries doesn't mean I can't disagree with the reasons for its illegality.
    Of course.

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    But it calls into question the very nature of the legal system and is nothing but lies - hence it isn't truly an opinion - it is just a falsehood.
    This is becoming off-topic-ish and theoretical, but I think a false opinion is an opinion too. Opinion and truth are different concepts.
    Last edited by PowerWizard; 02-16-2009 at 14:34.
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