Boy fathers child at twelve and girl at fourteen

[caravel]

Kids grow faster than we did when we were their age. They reach puberty faster. Don't get me wrong.

I respectfully beg to differ. I'd say that children nowadays are forced to grow up sooner and exposed to sex at too early an age.

I know that they're still kids, but we need to realize that they're situation is very different from us, and thus we need to be more aware of them. At an age when we still thought the opposite sex was yucky, they're already experimenting.

I'd say this is more indicative of the world we live in, more than anything else. We thought the opposite sex was "yucky" due to social constructs and the culture of the time. "Modern Children" grow up constantly exposed to sex in the media. It's no wonder that they're becoming sexually aware sooner and thus experimenting. This is what has to change. Children need to be allowed to be children and allowed a proper childhood. This is an important part of development and growing up.

I couldn't make sentences when I was four. (Maybe it was because I was exceptionally dumb but anyway...) At that age, I didn't know that the earth was round nor could I do any mathematics. She already knows about Christopher Columbus and knows addition.

This is because children develop at different rates. I don't think I could converse much when I was four years old either, though I see children that can barely converse at 14 every day. I would say that this is somewhat the reverse of your point above, but does also point to the education/class divide growing.

After looking at some kids attending college, I'm beginning to think that maybe in the far future the voting age might start at an earlier one. There are other groups who weren't allowed to vote in the past because others thought they weren't privileged enough to vote. Now we think it unimaginable to take away that right from them. I think in the far future, the new group will be teenagers. I have foreseen it.

There is a big difference between acting all mature and clever and actually being mature. Personally I think the voting age should be raised.

[rory_20_uk]

Cut state benefits for everything. Reduce government. When parents are made aware that they will have to deal with their children's mistakes they'll do something to stop them - especially when they are aware that the SS (social services) aren't going to lock them up. Give back power and responsibility to individuals.

[Husar]

Children need to be allowed to be children and allowed a proper childhood. This is an important part of development and growing up.

*Waits for some norwegian to say that sex orgies are the only proper childhood*

Concerning children being forced to grow up, how else are companies going to get their fully educated triple doctor title holders at 23? Science progresses and the new kids have to learn everything the old kids researched which becomes more with every generation. Personally I'm a slowpoke, which is why I will most likely fail society and should look to live in a forest in Canada with no contact to the rest of humanity.

[Tristuskhan]

Children need to be allowed to be children and allowed a proper childhood.

Out of curiousity, what the h... is a "proper childhood"?

[caravel]

Off the top of my head, a proper childhood would be one that does not involve sex, drugs, violence/abuse and getting pregnant before they can vote. Preferably with parents that either a) work or b) want to work and instil the need to work and not rely on state handouts in their children.

Of course that's just my opinion.

[Tristuskhan]

Off the top of my head, a proper childhood would be one that does not involve sex, drugs, violence/abuse and getting pregnant before they can vote. Preferably with parents that either a) work or b) want to work and instil the need to work and not rely on state handouts in their children.

Of course that's just my opinion.

I grew up in a pretty neat environment and still was exposed to everything you say, up to some point, so i believe the childhood you're thinking of exists only in the dreams of some.

Believe it or not, no matter the state handouts, religion, sexual education or anything else in the environment, some have the *** on fire at age 12. That has always been and will always be. Mankind.....

[Husar]

I grew up in a pretty neat environment and still was exposed to everything you say, up to some point, so i believe the childhood you're thinking of exists only in the dreams of some.

So you're an example for the rest of the world now?
Children are always exposed to all that to some point but that doesn't mean they have to experience all of that themselves or get bombarded with it daily so it starts to become a focus in their lives, I think that is what he means with a proper childhood.

[Tristuskhan]

So you're an example for the rest of the world now?
Children are always exposed to all that to some point but that doesn't mean they have to experience all of that themselves or get bombarded with it daily so it starts to become a focus in their lives, I think that is what he means with a proper childhood.

I'm just an example of a very reasonably "protected" childhood, an was replying Asa's "Off the top of my head, a proper childhood would be one that does not involve sex, drugs, violence/abuse and getting pregnant before they can vote. Preferably with parents that either a) work or b) want to work and instil the need to work and not rely on state handouts in their children.".

It looks like I precisely did not have a "proper childhood", according to these standards, and that's puzzling since my childhood occured by the end of the 70's, beginning of 80's, in a small french city, in a very average familly (divorced), conditions a very very (very, very...) large majority of kids on Earth could only dream of, and seem to be "unpropper" anyway.

The more I think on the topic, the more I want to call my doctor for a good definitive vasectomy. Breeding snappers, what a bore...

[Shaka_Khan]

I respectfully beg to differ. I'd say that children nowadays are forced to grow up sooner and exposed to sex at too early an age.

I didn't say they weren't exposed. The fact is, they're life is very different from ours.

I'd say this is more indicative of the world we live in, more than anything else. We thought the opposite sex was "yucky" due to social constructs and the culture of the time. "Modern Children" grow up constantly exposed to sex in the media. It's no wonder that they're becoming sexually aware sooner and thus experimenting. This is what has to change. Children need to be allowed to be children and allowed a proper childhood. This is an important part of development and growing up.

I agree. I meant that we have to be aware to be more careful with them. We weren't exposed to those things in their age. So our parents didn't have to worry about what parents worry now.

What you said isn't wrong. I was too lazy to mention it because it's something what all of us already know.

There is a big difference between acting all mature and clever and actually being mature. Personally I think the voting age should be raised.

You seem to get jumpy about kids. Frankly, I think the older adults can't do any better when judging candidates. But I don't really care about the voting age. I just decided to add humour, which I failed at.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm speechless:

SCHOOLBOY Alfie Patten wore a personalised hoodie yesterday defiantly declaring he is baby Maisie’s father.

The 13-year-old — devastated after other teens claimed they were the dad — displayed the message: “I’m the daddy, if not **** you all I’ll still be there.”

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[Alexander the Pretty Good]

If I were "other teens" I don't think I'd be screaming about how responsible I was for all of this. :/