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    I don't know about you, but I think there have been quite a few wars since WWII...
    Name them, then tell me the defining characteristic of every single one of them that separates them from the continual blood orgies that characterized Europe for 500 years.
    It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.

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    Name them, then tell me the defining characteristic of every single one of them that separates them from the continual blood orgies that characterized Europe for 500 years.
    There's no difference at all... so what have Nukes done to stop them?
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    There's no difference at all... so what have Nukes done to stop them?
    You see no difference in a war between France and Germany and a war between the United States and Vietnam?
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    You see no difference in a war between France and Germany and a war between the United States and Vietnam?
    People are still dying for moronic causes.

    EDIT: Not to say there is no difference, just that war has not been stopped by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
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    People are still dying for moronic causes.

    EDIT: Not to say there is no difference, just that war has not been stopped by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
    The question isn't whether wars occurred, but whether other wars were avoided.

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    People are still dying for moronic causes.

    EDIT: Not to say there is no difference, just that war has not been stopped by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
    War has been stopped between those who have them and the capability to deliver them to a target. Especially for a small nation, nuclear capability is necessary. Look what happened to Iraq when Saddam tried to go toe to toe with the US, or the various examples of military hilarity involving Israel and Arab nations. Conventional forces are getting increasingly powerful, complex, and exotic. Personally, I can't blame Iran for wanting a nuclear weapon. They know they can't stand up in a conventional war. I just don't understand how they can possibly perceive their foreign policy is effective in accomplishing it, assuming that they want it for defensive purposes.

    *And yes, generally the causes are fairly moronic, however that doesn't stop them from happening now does it?*
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