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Lemur 14:44 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
At least she didn't shout "Yo Queenie!"
Or try to sell her crack or use the word "mother" in an obscene combination. I hear American negros do such things.

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InsaneApache 15:01 04-03-2009
Aye 'Moms' always shouting Mutha...... this and Mutha...... that all day long.

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And, despite what you might think, those restaurants are exactly like restaurants run by white people, with tables and chairs, and food, and everything:
I remember this from a year or two back. Hilarious.

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KukriKhan 15:49 04-03-2009
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Buckingham Palace was very relaxed today about the incident, and attitudes there have changed significantly since the days of Mr Keating and his lese-majesty.
So it was actually, technically, a mistake. But Her Royalness has the grace to not only ignore it, but to play along. Good on 'er.

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Lemur 16:14 04-03-2009
The secret, real reason why you never touch the Queen. She's poisonous.

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Fixiwee 18:17 04-03-2009
EDIT: Removed hotlinked picture. Please host pictures yourself on a site like photobucket. BG

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Major Robert Dump 17:07 04-04-2009
No more Chia Obama

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/new...lgreens_040309

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CountArach 00:45 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Lemur:
The secret, real reason why you never touch the Queen. She's poisonous.
Yeah I loved that

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Marshal Murat 01:06 04-05-2009
Obama prepares to call for an end to nuclear weapons

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During his visit to Prague, the President met with several key Czech leaders. The meeting ended quickly, the men inside stricken with blindness. An Obama aide said about the meeting, "Obama raised his arms above his head, and shouted unto the Lord, our God, 'There shalt be no more nuclear weaponry!' and thus it was so. For God on High is almighty, the Creator of Heaven and Earth."
Bad and impractical idea that I don't understand.

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CountArach 01:18 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Marshal Murat:
Obama prepares to call for an end to nuclear weapons

Bad and impractical idea that I don't understand.
No more Nuclear weapons = Bad idea...

I don't follow.

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seireikhaan 01:22 04-05-2009
No nuclear weapons = no threat of reciprocal destruction in war.

However, corollary to that is

No nuclear weapons = no terrorist organization using them on nation states.

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CountArach 01:31 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan:
No nuclear weapons = no threat of reciprocal destruction in war.
Good, we might actually start looking for real diplomacy that isn't at the barrel of a gun then.
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan:
No nuclear weapons = no terrorist organization using them on nation states.
Spot on.

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Marshal Murat 01:31 04-05-2009
Where would the nuclear weapons be stored or destroyed? What happens to all that uranium and other radioactive materials?
The idea that we can, peacefully, remove all nuclear weapons and prevent them from being built again to me is the height of optimism. While Obama could remove most major nuclear weaponry, to me it is highly suspect that every nation will move in this direction and it is also highly suspect that terrorists or other guerrilla groups won't figure out the basic method of nuclear weapon creation.

I think it's similar to the Kellogg-Briand Pact that "outlawed war", which sounds nice, but how can we take back something that has already occurred?

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Evil_Maniac From Mars 01:37 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by CountArach:
Good, we might actually start looking for real diplomacy that isn't at the barrel of a gun then.
On the contrary, that is what forced us to keep using diplomacy.

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seireikhaan 01:46 04-05-2009
Maniac is quite correct, CA. For the first time in human history, every person had reason to avoid war at all possible costs. Because, for the first time in human history, that war could be the end of humanity.

HOWEVER, that does not mean that we shouldn't be drawing nuclear arsenals. When the US can, by itself, blow the entire world to bits without even needing "help" from the rest of the world on the task, there's something not quite right. Nobody should logically need more than a dozen nuclear bombs, let alone hundreds or thousands.

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Lemur 01:54 04-05-2009
Does anybody else think that this "universal disarmament" talk (which ain't gonna happen, as Obama well knows) is a ploy aimed in the direction of a certain country that really, really wants to join the nuclear club? (Cough, cough, Iran, cough, cough.)

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Shaka_Khan 01:56 04-05-2009
I wonder how Obama will handle the "Axis of Evil". It's too early to tell.

Meanwhile, the increasing number of American gun crime is getting freaky.

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CountArach 03:47 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan:
For the first time in human history, every person had reason to avoid war at all possible costs. Because, for the first time in human history, that war could be the end of humanity.
I don't know about you, but I think there have been quite a few wars since WWII...

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Strike For The South 03:49 04-05-2009
Getting rid of Nukes now isn't feasible.

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Xiahou 04:21 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Lemur:
Does anybody else think that this "universal disarmament" talk (which ain't gonna happen, as Obama well knows) is a ploy aimed in the direction of a certain country that really, really wants to join the nuclear club? (Cough, cough, Iran, cough, cough.)
Aimed at Iran with what goal? It'd be very foolish to think that he could shame the Iranian leaders into stopping nuclear research with his disarmament talks. But then again, maybe you're right- amateurish foreign policy moves like that seem to be a hallmark of the Obama administration thus far.

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seireikhaan 04:38 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by CountArach:
I don't know about you, but I think there have been quite a few wars since WWII...
Name them, then tell me the defining characteristic of every single one of them that separates them from the continual blood orgies that characterized Europe for 500 years.

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CountArach 04:39 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan:
Name them, then tell me the defining characteristic of every single one of them that separates them from the continual blood orgies that characterized Europe for 500 years.
There's no difference at all... so what have Nukes done to stop them?

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seireikhaan 04:40 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by CountArach:
There's no difference at all... so what have Nukes done to stop them?
You see no difference in a war between France and Germany and a war between the United States and Vietnam?

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CountArach 04:49 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan:
You see no difference in a war between France and Germany and a war between the United States and Vietnam?
People are still dying for moronic causes.

EDIT: Not to say there is no difference, just that war has not been stopped by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

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Sasaki Kojiro 04:52 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by CountArach:
People are still dying for moronic causes.

EDIT: Not to say there is no difference, just that war has not been stopped by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
The question isn't whether wars occurred, but whether other wars were avoided.

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seireikhaan 04:56 04-05-2009
Originally Posted by CountArach:
People are still dying for moronic causes.

EDIT: Not to say there is no difference, just that war has not been stopped by the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
War has been stopped between those who have them and the capability to deliver them to a target. Especially for a small nation, nuclear capability is necessary. Look what happened to Iraq when Saddam tried to go toe to toe with the US, or the various examples of military hilarity involving Israel and Arab nations. Conventional forces are getting increasingly powerful, complex, and exotic. Personally, I can't blame Iran for wanting a nuclear weapon. They know they can't stand up in a conventional war. I just don't understand how they can possibly perceive their foreign policy is effective in accomplishing it, assuming that they want it for defensive purposes.

*And yes, generally the causes are fairly moronic, however that doesn't stop them from happening now does it?*

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Crazed Rabbit 08:46 04-29-2009
Obama wants SCOTUS to overturn a pretty fundamental right of defendants in our legal system; to have the police stop questioning them when they request a lawyer.

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WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overrule long-standing law that stops police from initiating questions unless a defendant's lawyer is present, another stark example of the White House seeking to limit rather than expand rights.

The administration's action _ and several others _ have disappointed civil rights and civil liberties groups that expected President Barack Obama to reverse the policies of his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush, after the Democrat's call for change during the 2008 campaign.

Since taking office, Obama has drawn criticism for backing the continued imprisonment of enemy combatants in Afghanistan without trial, invoking the "state secrets" privilege to avoid releasing information in lawsuits and limiting the rights of prisoners to test genetic evidence used to convict them.

The case at issue is Michigan v. Jackson, in which the Supreme Court said in 1986 that police may not initiate questioning of a defendant who has a lawyer or has asked for one, unless the attorney is present. The decision applies even to defendants who agree to talk to the authorities without their lawyers.

Anything police learn through such questioning cannot be used against the defendant at trial. The opinion was written by Justice John Paul Stevens, the only current justice who was on the court at the time.
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The administration's position assumes a level playing field, with equally savvy police and criminal suspects, lawyers on the other side of the case said. But the protection offered by the court in Stevens' 1986 opinion is especially important for vulnerable defendants, including the mentally and developmentally disabled, addicts, juveniles and the poor, the lawyers said.

"Your right to assistance of counsel can be undermined if somebody on the other side who is much more sophisticated than you are comes and talks to you and asks for information," said Sidney Rosdeitcher, a New York lawyer who advises the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University.
A real shame. It should be obvious that a suspect interrogated for hours, perhaps poor and ignorant of the law, is not on equal terms with a professional interrogator.

CR

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Incongruous 08:55 04-29-2009
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
Getting rid of Nukes now isn't feasible.
Don't worry you uranium loving yanks, Obama isn'T really downgrading your nuclear capabilities, he is actually going to modernise them

Yay for "Change!"

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Spino 17:42 04-30-2009
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Obama wants SCOTUS to overturn a pretty fundamental right of defendants in our legal system; to have the police stop questioning them when they request a lawyer.



A real shame. It should be obvious that a suspect interrogated for hours, perhaps poor and ignorant of the law, is not on equal terms with a professional interrogator.

CR
Linkage man, LINKAGE!

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Crazed Rabbit 17:43 04-30-2009
Biden:
Open mouth, insert foot.


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WASHINGTON (CBS) ―

Vice President Joe Biden may not be a doctor, but he dispensed curious medical advice on the morning network news shows Thursday, advising Americans to avoid "confined places," such as airplanes, malls and classrooms. And while he did not mention them specifically, his admonition apparently also included subways, confined spaces used by tens of thousands of New Yorkers and tourists daily.

Later, though, the White House issued a statement saying Biden meant people should avoid confined spaces if they are ill.

Meanwhile in New York City, Biden's comments seemed to sound the bell of alarm. For tens of thousands of New Yorkers and tourists the subway system is the only possible form of transportation.
CR

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Xiahou 21:37 04-30-2009
Originally Posted by Spino:
Linkage man, LINKAGE!
Here it is. From the AP.

Also from the AP is an astonishingly blunt fack check of Obama's 100 day speech:
FACT CHECK: Obama disowns deficit he helped shape
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"That wasn't me," President Barack Obama said on his 100th day in office, disclaiming responsibility for the huge budget deficit waiting for him on Day One. It actually was him — and the other Democrats controlling Congress the previous two years — who shaped a budget so out of balance.

And as a presidential candidate and president-elect, he backed the twilight Bush-era stimulus plan that made the deficit deeper, all before he took over and promoted spending plans that have made it much deeper still.
Additionally, the article took issue with Obama's claims that spending more on preventative medicine would yield huge long-term savings...
Originally Posted by :
THE FACTS: It sounds believable that preventing illness should be cheaper than treating it, and indeed that's the case with steps like preventing smoking and improving diets and exercise. But during the 2008 campaign, when Obama and other presidential candidates were touting a focus on preventive care, the New England Journal of Medicine cautioned that "sweeping statements about the cost-saving potential of prevention, however, are overreaching." It said that "although some preventive measures do save money, the vast majority reviewed in the health economics literature do not."

And a study released in December by the Congressional Budget Office found that increasing preventive care "could improve people's health but would probably generate either modest reductions in the overall costs of health care or increases in such spending within a 10-year budgetary time frame."
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit:
Biden:
Open mouth, insert foot.
It's good to hear from Biden again, I was wondering where he's been. I'm sure Nepolitano was glad that she got to correct someone else's statements for a change.

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