Thoughts & Commentary on the Obama Administration

[Vuk]

I found out where the crazy is coming from ...

lol, I have heard of Glenn Beck before, but I thought he was only a comedian, I did not know he did politics. :P

Oh, wait, he's also been a fierce critic of GWBs dumbhead move to invade Iraq, a critic of GWBs treatment of detainees, and a critic of all GWBs attorneys general.....funny the conservatives aren't really talking about that so much as they are talking about this one thing he said this one time at band camp. I think I may be onto something.....

Sure, that makes sense Dump! So what if I am an outspoken critic of GWB's policies, yada yada, but I make an isolated statement that I think all Jews should be wiped off the face of the earth and a Nazi regime set up. Sorry for an extreme analogy, but you get the point, right? Who gives a flying- what else he says when he says something like that. That IS worthy of intense focus, as the theoretical comment I made would be.

OH MY GAWD!!!! HE SAID SOMETHING!!!! OH MY GOD. AND HE CALLED US AXIS OF DISOBEDIENCE!!! I COULD DEAL WITH TAX EVASION BUT NOT THIS REVOLUTION IS COMING RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR GET UR SABERS HURRY

Yes, peacefully exercising our political voice (as Democrats do all the time...when they are not holding violent rallies, burning flags, buildings, and people, throwing stones and molatov cocktails at people, etc) as is both our constitutional right and our duty as citizens to do make sure an appointee we think will be harmful to our country does not get in is sabre-rattling? Funny you say that, yet almost all the violence and vandalism that is done with political motivation is done by the left, not the right. During the Republican convention look at all the violence and destruction that leftwing wackjobs did as they protested that America should dare to have more than their one party.
You think it is unreasonable to get concerned when obama appoints someone guilty of tax evasion as secretary of the treasury?!! Or even worse, when he wants to appoint someone who said what this guy said? You think that is a small thing that should be overlooked? If it was a Republican, I garuntee that you and every other leftist on this board would be burning this thread down with your protest.

Seriously, answer me two questions:
1. Do you know what Sharia Law is?
2. Do you have any idea as to the unConstitutional consequences that would result if we instated Sharia Law in America?

[Strike For The South]

Seriously, answer me two questions:
1. Do you know what Sharia Law is?
2. Do you have any idea as to the unConstitutional consequences that would result if we instated Sharia Law in America?

Muslims make up .4% of a population that is overwhelmingly Christian. Somehow I just don't see it

[Vuk]

Muslims make up .4% of a population that is overwhelmingly Christian. Somehow I just don't see it

Population does not matter Strike. If a few people in the government decide to impose Sharia law, then the majority suffers under it. Just look at history Strike, tiny amounts of people in governments have always ruled the majority.

[Strike For The South]

Population does not matter Strike. If a few people in the government decide to impose Sharia law, then the majority suffers under it. Just look at history Strike, tiny amounts of people in governments have always ruled the majority.

And who will lead this charge for Sharia law?

[LittleGrizzly]

The tiny minority in goverment will quietly push it through with a few leftys who are muslim obseesed... dont you watch any conspiracies

[Fixiwee]

Just look at history Strike, tiny amounts of people in governments have always ruled the majority.

But you are aware that rulers need the acceptance of the majority? If not you get a revolution.
And I don't see a muslim majority in any of the western states.

[Vuk]

But you are aware that rulers need the acceptance of the majority? If not you get a revolution.
And I don't see a muslim majority in any of the western states.

Not at all, and esp not in the States. In the States we have a belief that if we are not satisfied with something we have the power to change it, and if it is not changed, it MUST be because it is the will of the people, and we do not need to revolt against the government, but join activist groups and change the minds of the people. I tell you agian, look at history. Look at how many times things have been done in American history by the government directly against the wishes of majority of the citizens. We have had no revolutions against our government yet. (and no, the war betweent he states does not count, it was not a revolution)

[Strike For The South]

Not at all, and esp not in the States. In the States we have a belief that if we are not satisfied with something we have the power to change it, and if it is not changed, it MUST be because it is the will of the people, and we do not need to revolt against the government, but join activist groups and change the minds of the people. I tell you agian, look at history. Look at how many times things have been done in American history by the government directly against the wishes of majority of the citizens. We have had no revolutions against our government yet. (and no, the war betweent he states does not count, it was not a revolution)

Whom will do it then?

[Vuk]

Whom will do it then?

What do you mean whom will do it? :P Obama is trying to get a guy in who said he wants to do it. Don't play dumb.

EDIT: So let me get this right Strike, you are saying I am being unreasonable to assume that when a guy is put into power, he will try to do what he has said he thinks should be done? That does not make very much sense on your part. If someone said that they think all blacks in the country should be killed, don't you think it would be reasonable to assume that if you put them in a position to do so it is likely that they will try? And don't you think that is a reason for concern? Why then is it far fetched to be concerned that a guy who believes the US should be ran by Sharia law may be put into a position where he would have power to pursue that and possibly bring it about?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

And I don't see a muslim majority in any of the western states.

Do you count Albania as a Western state now that it is in NATO? If so, it is 70% Muslim. Regardless of that, Britain does not have a Muslim majority - and yet...

[Fixiwee]

Do you count Albania as a Western state now that it is in NATO? If so, it is 70% Muslim. Regardless of that, Britain does not have a Muslim majority - and yet...

Being part of the NATO does not make a western state. Turkey is part of the NATO and they have a Muslim majority. Suprise eh?
But that's not a western state.

What are you trying to prove with that link? This has nothing to do with the discussion?

[Major Robert Dump]

Not one dime of extra taxes will be paid by poor people.

Unless they smoke.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Being part of the NATO does not make a western state. Turkey is part of the NATO and they have a Muslim majority. Suprise eh?
But that's not a western state.

Definitions differ. I don't consider Albania or Turkey western either - I was trying to figure out yours.

What are you trying to prove with that link? This has nothing to do with the discussion?

It has everything to do with the discussion. You don't need a Muslim majority for Muslim influence or Islamic law.

[Major Robert Dump]

Yes, peacefully exercising our political voice (as Democrats do all the time...when they are not holding violent rallies, burning flags, buildings, and people, throwing stones and molatov cocktails at people, etc) as is both our constitutional right and our duty as citizens to do make sure an appointee we think will be harmful to our country does not get in is sabre-rattling? Funny you say that, yet almost all the violence and vandalism that is done with political motivation is done by the left, not the right. During the Republican convention look at all the violence and destruction that leftwing wackjobs did as they protested that America should dare to have more than their one party.
You think it is unreasonable to get concerned when obama appoints someone guilty of tax evasion as secretary of the treasury?!! Or even worse, when he wants to appoint someone who said what this guy said? You think that is a small thing that should be overlooked? If it was a Republican, I garuntee that you and every other leftist on this board would be burning this thread down with your protest.

Seriously, answer me two questions:
1. Do you know what Sharia Law is?
2. Do you have any idea as to the unConstitutional consequences that would result if we instated Sharia Law in America?

1. I know exactly what Sharia law is and taking a few sentences uttered and turning it into OMGZ we're turning into Iran is over doing it.
2. I know exactly how incompatable Sharia law is with liberty, our constitution, and my way of life, and I've been getting warnings on these boards for making fun of muslims since before you were born. But the fact that I don't agree with it or want it does not make me go nutso because an otherwise very qualified appointee said some stuff to try to pander to muslims sympathizers. What you should be angry about is Henry Kissinger, the herpe who will not go away, being in cahoots with Obama and the string of tax evading people he is appointing. My point is: right fervor, wrong target. Take a deep breath.
3. I'm not a leftist, guy. Things are not black and white. Capitalism does not exist anywhere in the world right now, it is not you vs me. Really.

This is exactly the same rubbish that comes from over scrutiny of every new president, and believe me, Obama will do himself in just fine without your help. Actions speak louder than words. Republicans have been muzzled the last two elections and they are now taking pot shots at anything they can, it's the natural order of things. I expect another flag-burning amendment to come up just before the next congressional elections, like it does every 8 years or so when Republicans need a boost, and just about the time Democrats lose power they will start initiatives they know won't pass and they know the public in general doesn't support because they want reassurance that, if all else fails, well they still got the perceived victim class to go to bat for them. And everyone invokes Hitler, every time, without fail. God, it gets so tiring.

As for your earlier paragraph, please spare me the conservative indignation over the violence of the left. No, really, please. Labeling an entire broad spectrum of people based on the actions of the fringers shows just how little you know of variance, conflict and unholy alliances within parties because, unfortunately, thats how the two party system works, unless of course you are being entirely sarcastic and I'm missing your self aggrandizement. Now, if you don't mind, we can continue this discussion later. When you are done bombing the abortion clinic and ironing your confederate flag give me a call, I'll just be hanging around here making scat porn to fund my Marxist bake sale at the PETA headquarters.

[Lemur]

When you are done bombing the abortion clinic and ironing your confederate flag give me a call, I'll just be hanging around here making scat porn to fund my Marxist bake sale at the PETA headquarters.

If I believed in siggies, I would siggie this instantly. And I guess it would have to be a Backroom-only siggie, and I'm not even sure if those are working.

Anyway, epic sentence. This is why I read the Org. Normally I expect brilliant flights of rhetoric like this to come from DevDave, so it's an added pleasure to see it from you instead. I LOL muchly and bow in your general direction. Bravo!

[Strike For The South]

Can I get in on that scat porn?

So? That does not mean I do not pay close attention to the news and talk to people in the States regularly

.

It might help to be here if you are going to make those kind of accusations.