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    So, 106 Billion Bucks for 90 days of war-fighting, AND some domestic programs as well, all off-budget, ala the last administration.

    I'm old enough to remember LBJ's "guns 'n butter" duel-funding plan for the war on Viet Nam AND the war on poverty. It worked for awhile, but neither achieved its stated goal. Maybe history doesn't always repeat itself, but I think we need to tread lightly in mixing FoPo and domestic money.
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    As a libertarian, i'm against the idea of the government providing health care, as i don't think the government should take care of people, but rather that people should take care of themselves.

    However, i'm not afraid of it, and if it works, hey why knock it? I just got done watching Sicko and neither England, nor France have problems with it. The fact that the one woman got an inhaler that would have cost her like $120 for $.05 in CUBA of all places was ASTONISHING, to say the least.
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    However, i'm not afraid of it, and if it works, hey why knock it? I just got done watching Sicko and neither England, nor France have problems with it. The fact that the one woman got an inhaler that would have cost her like $120 for $.05 in CUBA of all places was ASTONISHING, to say the least.
    Moore's movie? That's propaganda.

    From wikipedia:

    MTV's Kurt Loder criticized the film as presenting cherry-picked facts, manipulative interviews, and unsubstantiated assertions.[31] While admitting that the U.S. health care system needs reform, Loder criticized Moore’s advocacy of government control, arguing that many services controlled by the government are not considered efficient by the American public. Loder points to a 2005 documentary, Dead Meat, by Stuart Browning and Blaine Greenberg, which documents long waiting lists for care in Canada. Loder points to calls for reform in Britain and France due to the same rationing.[32]
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    A fairer comparison is looking at what Switzerland pays and the service they receive.

    McKinsey has done some good work on comparing health services. As the UK spends about 9% and the USA about 17%GDP, it should be a hell of a lot better.

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    Moore's movie? That's propaganda.

    From wikipedia:

    MTV's Kurt Loder criticized the film as presenting cherry-picked facts, manipulative interviews, and unsubstantiated assertions.[31] While admitting that the U.S. health care system needs reform, Loder criticized Moore’s advocacy of government control, arguing that many services controlled by the government are not considered efficient by the American public. Loder points to a 2005 documentary, Dead Meat, by Stuart Browning and Blaine Greenberg, which documents long waiting lists for care in Canada. Loder points to calls for reform in Britain and France due to the same rationing.[32]
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    A combination of two of the world's greatest sources
    *looks at CA's source in the Honduras thread*

    Anyways, You know Mr. transparency and everything? Apparently the new White House web site is harder to find actual info on than Bush's, and is more oriented towards showing off flattering pictures of Obama.
    Information is harder to find on the Obama Web site than it was on the site created and run by the Bush administration, according to Web site experts.

    "It doesn't seem to be quite in line with the notion of the pillars of government 2.0 being openness and transparency. It seems just the opposite," said Mark Drapeau, a columnist for Federal Computer Week who writes frequently on the ways that new technologies can be used by the government.

    Mr. Drapeau and others said this might be a short-term trend, as the administration has begun a long-term effort to use new technologies to open up the government that could have a big impact on the way the public interacts with the federal bureaucracy and keeps track of its actions.

    The biggest difference is that the Bush Web site archived all its information by year, month and day, with a sidebar menu that allowed a user to view virtually all the information from, for example, a day in 2002 -- speech transcripts along with video and audio of the speech, press releases, official statements, nominations, letters to Congress, executive orders -- with three clicks of the mouse.

    The same information on the Obama site, however, is spread across various parts of the Web site. The longer ago something happened, the harder it is to find.

    "It's lots of PR and not a lot of data," said Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute, who called the site "brochureware."
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    *looks at CA's source in the Honduras thread*
    I just went with what a mate linked me to. Couldn't be bothered to dig through anything else. All of the MSM just say the exact same thing and are incredibly short on details.
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    Well, it's true that Cuba has quality health care.

    It's so good in fact that many foreign countries gladly rent doctors and medical personel from Cuba, and because Cuba direly needs money to pay for (among other things) their elaborate health care system, they gladly accept

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