Thoughts & Commentary on the Obama Administration

**LittleGrizzly** · 10-01-2009, 08:29

Fondness for the military. Military is the force if the Federal gov't. You can't be anti-Fed and pro-military.

There are plenty of people who treat the word fed like a swear word and think the military is the greatest thing ever... it seems illogical but when has that ever stopped people believing anything ?

**Tribesman** · 10-01-2009, 10:33

Let's make it easier then. Let's take a European country and see if it can elect a leader with 50% non-european ethnicity and then look and see whether or not his ancestry become a hot topic.

When a european country has had a similar proportion of the population for a similar amount of time then perhaps you can say something.

**rvg** · 10-01-2009, 13:31

Originally Posted by Tribesman

When a european country has had a similar proportion of the population for a similar amount of time then perhaps you can say something.

France should have enough non-Euros to get to the 13%

**Louis VI the Fat** · 10-01-2009, 14:08

I am not sure why I got your back up so much, rvg. I'm not slagging off the US, I am referring to a well-documented phenomenon.

By now, you’ve probably seen Pundit’s post about his run-in with Tom Baurle on Wednesday. Many people seem to be taking it as a pissing match between a radio host and a guy he hung up on, but I think there’s something far more important than Bauerle calling people names:

At around 9:52, Bauerle suggested that a new civil war was in order, advocated for secession, and suggested that liberals want to put people like him and Jim Ostrowski in concentration camps.
Around 11:14, Bauerle advocated for an armed, military coup of the United States government, and wondered whether the military would “side with the people” to, I suppose, wipe out the anti-American liberals.
I’m not kidding about any of this.

This is pretty incredible, really — one of the most prominent public voices in WNY openly advocating for a military coup against our elected government. This isn’t some nutjob on a street corner, or some misanthrope in his basement. It’s the most popular local voice on the most popular radio station in town. So what does it mean?

It could be that Bauerle is just putting on an act in an attempt to generate an audience. But whether he really believes what he says doesn’t matter — either way, there is a substantial audience of conservatives who agree with what he’s saying, whether it’s an act or not.

http://wnymedia.net/wnymedia/colinea...-undemocratic/

I would link to an extensive study about the undemocratic right, but I don't know of any. I wouldn't mind reading one, so if anybody has a good recomendation or link, I'd be much obliged.

**Meneldil** · 10-01-2009, 14:38

This is quite similar to the late 19th, early 20th french ultra-right. Religious nutjobs and nationalists pretending their country is ruled by the antichrist, jews (or in this case, black muslims) communists and socialists. While they don't have a huge electoral basis, they certainly are well-known, and sometimes respected and well-educated people.

They have a certain idea of America, and whoever disagrees with them is obviously wrong and ought to be eliminated. This is indeed very close to fascism (it is fascism in my opinion, but I guess people might disagree).

At least, Charles Maurras and his friends from L'Action Française used to be a decent writters. Most of those folks could hardly write a coherent and thought-out book. The amount of conspirationist mumbo-jumbo they have to put together probably doesn't help.

**rvg** · 10-01-2009, 15:04

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I am not sure why I got your back up so much, rvg. I'm not slagging off the US, I am referring to a well-documented phenomenon.

http://wnymedia.net/wnymedia/colinea...-undemocratic/

I would link to an extensive study about the undemocratic right, but I don't know of any. I wouldn't mind reading one, so if anybody has a good recomendation or link, I'd be much obliged.

You're generalizing about a 300 million stong country based on one radio talking head? That does not seem reasonable.

**Strike For The South** · 10-01-2009, 15:59

America isn't revolting anytime soon.

Tell me what there is to revolt against? Obama is Bush except he does a little more talking and has a watered down bill that cuts medicare.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

**Tribesman** · 10-01-2009, 16:12

France should have enough non-Euros to get to the 13%

Most foriegners in france are from europe, many of the french non europeans are from france.
What we really need to shut up your nonsense is European leaders in history from different continents. well there is no shortage of those,and there certainly is no shortage of those who are 50% from another continent .
But of course you mean ethnicity which means they must not only originate from another continent they must be from another race or culture.

Ah but thats easy Europe beat you on that score by a long way

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 10-01-2009, 16:16

Ahahaha, a radio talking head? Louis, their job is to say crazy **** so people will listen.

**rvg** · 10-01-2009, 17:16

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Most foriegners in france are from europe, many of the french non europeans are from france.
What we really need to shut up your nonsense is European leaders in history from different continents. well there is no shortage of those,and there certainly is no shortage of those who are 50% from another continent .
But of course you mean ethnicity which means they must not only originate from another continent they must be from another race or culture.

Ah but thats easy Europe beat you on that score by a long way

a french born and bred non-european will suffice. Elect *that* then tell me how less racist europe is compared to the US. Until that happens, we have you beaten by a mile.