Thoughts & Commentary on the Obama Administration

**Fragony** · 01-31-2010, 16:21

lol

Obama

Wouter Bos of the Dutch social democrats

**Gregoshi** · 01-31-2010, 16:55

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Want a sure-fire way to make the BCS worse? Get the government involved.

Government involvement would really improve things.[/sarcasm] Maybe with their legislating the BCS, they'll introduce the fillibuster to the polling process. The government needs to get a life.

**CountArach** · 02-03-2010, 01:16

Originally Posted by Fragony

lol

Obama

Wouter Bos of the Dutch social democrats

I think everyone who espouses 'hope' as a value they represent has had their picture taken with that head angle at some point or another. It is an incredibly common trope and always has been, as it is is something like "looking into the future", but also "day-dreaming of something better."

@ Lemur - "Can I be totally irrelevant?" "Errr, irreverant?" "Irreverant and irrelevant, thank you sir. Big moment, I couldn't handle it."

. That was very cool though.

**Beskar** · 02-03-2010, 02:42

Obama is significantly superior to Bush Jr. so far though. That is a good thing.

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-03-2010, 03:48

Originally Posted by Beskar

Obama is significantly superior to Bush Jr. so far though. That is a good thing.

That is certainly a highly debatable opinion.

**Lemur** · 02-03-2010, 04:12

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

That is certainly a highly debatable opinion.

Indeed, for a certain segment of the population, Obama is Stalin cum Antichrist with a dash of Idi Amin. A mere incompetent like GWB can never compare with that.

39 percent of Republicans believe Obama should be impeached, 29 percent are not sure, 32 percent said he should not be voted out of office.

36 percent of Republicans believe Obama was not born in the United States, 22 percent are not sure, 42 percent think he is a natural citizen.

31 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a "Racist who hates White people" -- the description once adopted by Fox News's Glenn Beck. 33 percent were not sure, and 36 percent said he was not a racist.

63 percent of Republicans think Obama is a socialist, 16 percent are not sure, 21 percent say he is not

24 percent of Republicans believe Obama wants "the terrorists to win," 33 percent aren't sure, 43 percent said he did not want the terrorist to win.

21 percent of Republicans believe ACORN stole the 2008 election, 55 percent are not sure, 24 percent said the community organizing group did not steal the election.

23 percent of Republicans believe that their state should secede from the United States, 19 percent aren't sure, 58 percent said no.

53 percent of Republicans said they believe Sarah Palin is more qualified to be president than Obama.

Further polling data here, level-headed analysis here.

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-03-2010, 04:29

Originally Posted by Lemur

Indeed, for a certain segment of the population, Obama is Stalin cum Antichrist with a dash of Idi Amin. A mere incompetent like GWB can never compare with that.

Yep, its just those nutty Glen Beck Republicans who are turning against this president and his agenda.

**CountArach** · 02-03-2010, 04:47

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

Yep, its just those nutty Glen Beck Republicans who are turning against this president and his agenda.

Voting intentions are:
1) Useless this far out from an election
2) Pointless when you don't name the "someone else" because people are able to put in place the name of their favourite dream candidate. I'd be interested to see how many Democrats said someone else, because they could well be causing those numbers. Also I'm not sure I like the fact that 21% of respondents to that poll are from the "Deep South". I think the partisan identification probably should have been 2 or 3 points fewer Republicans and 2 or 3 more Democrats. Plus the questions are really quite skewed if you ask me and that makes me think that I'm missing something. Financial Dynamics is not a particularly reknowned pollster either.

**CountArach** · 02-03-2010, 04:33

I didn't see some of those results coming (31% want to outlaw contraceptive use and 73% think that gay people shouldn't teach in schools!). The full set of questions and answers are here - and before people criticise it for being DailyKos, they didn't do the polling, Research 2000 did. Further, the DailyKos daily tracking poll has only a few points better for Obama than the other tracking polls do, so even if ytou cry bias that is quite a baseless idea.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 02-03-2010, 04:40

That poll is so obviously bogus that I'm amazed people are even discussing it seriously.

I'm not a bit surprised that self-identified republicans will tell a pollster that ACORN stole the election and that they believe the should secede from the union, what's disturbing is that it gets reported as "21% of Republicans believe".

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-03-2010, 04:44

Originally Posted by CountArach

I didn't see some of those results coming (31% want to outlaw contraceptive use and 73% think that gay people shouldn't teach in schools!). The full set of questions and answers are here - and before people criticise it for being DailyKos, they didn't do the polling, Research 2000 did. Further, the DailyKos daily tracking poll has only a few points better for Obama than the other tracking polls do, so even if ytou cry bias that is quite a baseless idea.

Some further reading you may be interested in.