Thoughts & Commentary on the Obama Administration

**CountArach** · 02-04-2010, 02:18

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Eh, you gotta know Obama is going to win reelection. His base is disaffected now, wait until full political season. The incumbent always has the advantage.

Couple that with the fact that the economy is likely to come out of recession in the coming year and it seems quite likely. I'm not 100% sure on him winning re-election, but I'd put my money on it.

**Subotan** · 02-04-2010, 19:55

Originally Posted by CountArach

Couple that with the fact that the economy is likely to come out of recession in the coming year and it seems quite likely. I'm not 100% sure on him winning re-election, but I'd put my money on it.

The economy is already out of recession. And the Republican Party has spent the duration of that recession opposing the measures which ended it.

You reap what you sow, RNC.

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Obama continues his attack on the working class people of Las Vegas.

CR

I'm surprised that the people of Las Vegas, the "Entertainment Capital of the World", are offended by what Obama said. It wasn't even an insult. Of course, the Republican Party is just in a froth about it because they can smell blood on Harry Reid's Seat in the Senate. No real politics to see here folks.

Although I did lol when I saw

NEIL PETERSON
Disappointed in the President

As if that was his sole purpose in life

**Lemur** · 02-04-2010, 20:42

Originally Posted by Subotan

The economy is already out of recession.

That's fair, and a lot of very smart people would agree with you. However, until unemployment drops, it's going to feel like a recession in full swing. And nobody is sure when hiring will pick back up. So how the recent recession is going to impact the '10 and '12 elections is ... questionable. Nobody really knows.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 02-04-2010, 21:06

Originally Posted by Subotan

I'm surprised that the people of Las Vegas, the "Entertainment Capital of the World", are offended by what Obama said. It wasn't even an insult. :

It was saying companies should not go to Las Vegas and waste their money there. That means the people who work their have a lot less work to do, and so people get fired or laid off.

They're are quite understandably offended because Obama is saying it's bad for companies to employ their services; it's bad for those workers to have jobs in that industry.

CR

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-05-2010, 00:46

Originally Posted by Subotan

And the Republican Party has spent the duration of that recession opposing the measures which ended it.

Yikes. That line is so completely divorced from reality, even for a master salesman like O, it may just be a talking point too far.

Its usually pretty easy for politicians to confuse the unwashed over complex economics, but promising 8% and delivering 10% isn't hard to comprehend.

**Lemur** · 02-05-2010, 00:53

Just our of curiosity, PJ, do you believe America has had a worse president than Obama? If so, who?

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-05-2010, 01:03

Originally Posted by Lemur

Just our of curiosity, PJ, do you believe America has had a worse president than Obama? If so, who?

Rhetorical?

**Lemur** · 02-05-2010, 01:09

No, a serious question. Your rhetoric on Obama is so negative, I'm wondering if you think him the absolute worst, or if there is room for lower. You're not required to answer anything you don't want to, of course.

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To clarify -- knowing just how low you rank Obama would be instructive. Worse than Harrison? Worse than Buchannan? Or is he more mid-list? It's impossible to get a sense of what you actually think of him, since your points about him are universally negative. Not much information there. And based on your posts in the Liberal Fascism thread, you appear to believe that rhetorical extremity is perfectly legitimate as a corrective, so I can't begin to get a sense of what you actually believe.

**Xiahou** · 02-05-2010, 01:30

Originally Posted by Lemur

To clarify -- knowing just how low you rank Obama would be instructive.

How would it matter? How he ranks Obama shouldn't be relevant to the merit of any criticism made. It sounds more like you're trying to set up some kind of ad hominem. ie: He thinks Obama is the worst president ever, therefore his criticism is invalid. That doesn't follow.

But maybe I'm just missing what the relevance is.

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-05-2010, 03:30

Originally Posted by Lemur

No, a serious question. Your rhetoric on Obama is so negative, I'm wondering if you think him the absolute worst, or if there is room for lower. You're not required to answer anything you don't want to, of course.

Obama unquestionably represents the worst elements of contemporary American politics, but is he the worst president in United States history? It’s way too early to tell; or to issue him a rank. He certainly hasn’t done as much damage to the fabric of the nation as FDR or LBJ, for example. Actually he hasn't done much at all.

Ironically, that dismal failure in actually executing his job as president– despite a rare supermajority ensuring a powerless opposition – may just have saved him from the full fury of future history books. The profligate spending ensures he won’t go down as a “good” president, but had he passed that massive unfunded liability that was (is) healthcare “reform” and the penalty on industry, based on crumbling science, that was (is) Cap and Trade, things would look far worse for him.

Who knows, though? Despite being roundly rejected by the populace time and again, Obama’s agenda continues to rear its ugly head. He’s still got plenty of time to fall even further down the list.

Originally Posted by Megas

Hey, it's that German! Never saw the euro post around for a long time. Mindi moonyaqueh animush.

Hey man. Good to see you are still around. The posturing and rhetorical flourish that Lemur speaks of got the best of me one too many times and I wound up on the wrong side of the ban-stick. Lesson learned the hard way.