Thoughts & Commentary on the Obama Administration

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-05-2010, 03:30

Originally Posted by Lemur

No, a serious question. Your rhetoric on Obama is so negative, I'm wondering if you think him the absolute worst, or if there is room for lower. You're not required to answer anything you don't want to, of course.

Obama unquestionably represents the worst elements of contemporary American politics, but is he the worst president in United States history? It’s way too early to tell; or to issue him a rank. He certainly hasn’t done as much damage to the fabric of the nation as FDR or LBJ, for example. Actually he hasn't done much at all.

Ironically, that dismal failure in actually executing his job as president– despite a rare supermajority ensuring a powerless opposition – may just have saved him from the full fury of future history books. The profligate spending ensures he won’t go down as a “good” president, but had he passed that massive unfunded liability that was (is) healthcare “reform” and the penalty on industry, based on crumbling science, that was (is) Cap and Trade, things would look far worse for him.

Who knows, though? Despite being roundly rejected by the populace time and again, Obama’s agenda continues to rear its ugly head. He’s still got plenty of time to fall even further down the list.

Originally Posted by Megas

Hey, it's that German! Never saw the euro post around for a long time. Mindi moonyaqueh animush.

Hey man. Good to see you are still around. The posturing and rhetorical flourish that Lemur speaks of got the best of me one too many times and I wound up on the wrong side of the ban-stick. Lesson learned the hard way.

**Lemur** · 02-05-2010, 04:24

That's a fair answer, PJ. Thanks for satisfying my prosimian curiosity. (And while I understand why you single out FDR and LBJ as baddies, you'd have to agree that no chief executive has ever done more to tear the United States apart than James Buchanan. I believe he sets the bar so low that no president past or future will ever get under it.)

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Bit of a side note, but while thumbing through Wiki, I ran across this article about president rankings. I had no idea it was such a sport.

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-05-2010, 04:45

Originally Posted by Lemur

That's a fair answer, PJ. Thanks for satisfying my prosimian curiosity. (And while I understand why you single out FDR and LBJ as baddies, you'd have to agree that no chief executive has ever done more to tear the United States apart than James Buchanan. I believe he sets the bar so low that no president past or future will ever get under it.)

Well, I believe the Governor of Texas threatened secession last year, and several other states have reasserted their rights under the 10th amendment, so you never know.

All kidding aside, I can agree that Obama has a long way to fall before he gets anywhere close to the bottom of the list.

**KukriKhan** · 02-05-2010, 14:45

Originally Posted by Lemur

Bit of a side note, but while thumbing through Wiki, I ran across this article about president rankings. I had no idea it was such a sport.

Yeah. Look at the sea of red in the mid-1800's, with Lincoln the only green island.

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aw, heck. I didn't address "Thoughts & Commentary on the Obama Administration". How about this:

A Tibet Freedom Movement activist makes a portrait of U.S. President Barack Obama with his blood in Shimla, India as he thanks him for agreeing to meet the Dalai Lama, Thursday, Feb. 4, 2010. China on Wednesday again urged Obama not to hold a planned meeting with Dalai Lama, saying it would further hurt already strained bilateral relations. According to Chhime R. Chhoekyapa, the Dalai Lama's secretary, the Dalai Lama will be in Washington on Feb 17-18.

(my bolded underline).

from this story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020500566.html

Q: Should Obama meet with the Dali Lama?

A: Sure. Gonna meet with the pope, dinner-jacket, and (maybe) 김정일,... what harm can the Dali do? How many Divisions has he?

**PanzerJaeger** · 02-09-2010, 19:50

In a coming-full-circle moment, the current administration accuses its critics of helping the terrorists. Ironic.. hypocritical.. hilarious?

In an oped in USA Today, John Brennan -- Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism -- responds to critics of the Obama administration's counterterrorism policies by saying "Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda."

**Aemilius Paulus** · 02-09-2010, 20:08

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

In a coming-full-circle moment, the current administration accuses its critics of helping the terrorists. Ironic.. hypocritical.. hilarious?

Haha, even as a strong Obama backer and Dem I can see all three things you say it is...

Yeah, I think 'helping the terrorists' is the new 'He is a damn Red!' or 'he is a damn Fascist'... Unfortunately this is a tactic that does not work well on GOP whose credentials of being tough with 'terrorists' is not to be questioned.

**Strike For The South** · 02-09-2010, 20:42

Can someone explain to me how Obama is any different than Clinton or Bush?

The last 20 years we've had the same president, the only difference being one liked fat chicks, one liked Jesus, and one likes black people.

Can someone explain to me how;

Bush's medicare expansion is anydifferent than Obamas healthcare expansion?

Clinton's welfare reform is any different than Bush's compassionate consevativism?

How interveinig in the former Yougo, the ME, and ramping up troops in Afghan are any different?

We've been governed buy lame ducks since I've been born.

Since Obama has gotten into office he has been center left at best, while I don't agree with some of his ideas I believe he has a few good nuggets, however these want get any attention because he's a forigen born muslim communist who wants to eat beautifual blonde infants.