Friend's niece has gone missing

[Myrddraal]

There's no way someone like Amber's murderer will ever rehabilitate. It's just impossible. He killed two girls and tried to rape one who fortunately escaped.
Neither does a life sentence do anything. For some people prison is luxury.

Life sentences keep them off the streets. What do you achieve by killing more people?

[KukriKhan]

Life sentences keep them off the streets. What do you achieve by killing more people?

About $120,000 (2.5 times my household gross income, before taxes) saved in prison maintenance costs per year, per perpetrator. Gardner is a 31yo white male, who already has cost society over 2 million dollars cleaning up after him, with a life expectancy of about 60 more years. 60 x 120K = 7 million, 200 thousand USD not spent warehousing an unrepentant, unremorseful, unrehabilitate-able human.

I share Subotan's "...moral ickiness of the state taking the life of one of it's own citizens...", but, if serial, chronic paedo's are truly un-fixable (which up until this moment I would have disagreed with in principle, but bowing to the words of penal, psychiatric, psychologic, and statistical experts) : I'm willing to squint my eyes, hold my nose, and pull the trigger.

[Subotan]

There's no way someone like Amber's murderer will ever rehabilitate. It's just impossible. He killed two girls and tried to rape one who fortunately escaped

I'm not saying that this guy can be rehabilitated. I highly doubt that he can, and by all means, he should be locked away until the end of his days. That is effectively a death penalty, but with the added bonus of it being A. Correctable (Even though he confessed, it is still possible that we have the wrong guy, See: Timothy Evans), and B. Morally Justifiable.

Neither does a life sentence do anything. For some people prison is luxury.

Such an ignorant statement can only come from someone who has absolutely no understanding of what prison is like. The justice system grinds you up and spits you out a shell of a man, regardless of whether you're guilty or not.

About $120,000 (2.5 times my household gross income, before taxes) saved in prison maintenance costs per year, per perpetrator. Gardner is a 31yo white male, who already has cost society over 2 million dollars cleaning up after him, with a life expectancy of about 60 more years. 60 x 120K = 7 million, 200 thousand USD not spent warehousing an unrepentant, unremorseful, unrehabilitate-able human.

I remember reading somewhere that it's often just as, and sometimes more expensive, to execute someone, as you have to go through a tortuously long legal process, whilst the culprit languishes on death row. It certainly doesn't save a huge amount of money.

I share Subotan's "...moral ickiness of the state taking the life of one of it's own citizens...", but, if serial, chronic paedo's are truly un-fixable (which up until this moment I would have disagreed with in principle, but bowing to the words of penal, psychiatric, psychologic, and statistical experts) : I'm willing to squint my eyes, hold my nose, and pull the trigger.

I still think it's wrong. It brings the state, and by definition the nation down to the same level as this monster.