Clan Wars Competition

[Tomisama]

Sixteen Clans per individual competition is all that can be practically handled. The reason being the overall length of the (16 Team) contests being four to six months, and the fact that during half of that time that only four of those Clans are engaged in any combat, while the rest of the multiplayer Clan community waits. If we have enough interest it is better to start second competition, and run the two at the same time.

We have had as many as six contests open at the same time, only four were actively being fought simultaneously, but still it shows the possibilities

Just quoting myself to say; that this was an “off the top of my head” response.

Now we will hear from the “middle of my head”.

(Not sure what the “bottom of my head” is going to say in the end.)

Empire Total War is a different animal, and it will require a different type of contest than we have ever had before. The difference is the Sea Battles, and the Clan Wars signees in general seem to agree that they want parallel General's and Admiral's competitions.

And so that’s what we shall have!

I am pulling off the wrapper, and starting from scratch on this one. Who knows where it will all end up. The most number of Teams we have ever had before in a single contest was 32. That was 32 times 4 players each (at the time that was workable), that sent 128 individual players to the battlefield in the first battle of the first round alone. It was long, but awesome!

http://www.totalwar.org/index.php?st...ubaction=&id=&

Being as this will be The Revival of Total War Multiplayer, the Clan Wars Competition will turn no one away! We will accept all Clans submitting, and as many Teams as they want to put forth, up and until the posting of the First Round Battle Assignments.

Even then we will accept standbys until all of the Battles of the First Round have been fought. From there on out, there will be no replacement of dropped Teams, so if you are not active in the competition at that time, you will have to wait until the next one.

The Works!

Here’s how it will work; all signing entities will be entered into two contests, the General’s, and the Admiral’s, Competitions. Each Competition will have it’s own Battle Assignments with it’s own Match draw of their respective competitive fields.

Because of the separation of the two, it will be possible to loose in one contest, and continue in and win the other. Or you could win both!

Anything can happen, any which way…

This will be great

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[YellowMelon]

I disagree with the notion that once a team advances to a certain stage they can be filled in by clan members who played on a separate team, as you told Grendy. i think if they register one team they should have to play on that team, otherwise clans who can field more teams have an advantage.

[Tomisama]

I disagree with the notion that once a team advances to a certain stage they can be filled in by clan members who played on a separate team, as you told Grendy. i think if they register one team they should have to play on that team, otherwise clans who can field more teams have an advantage.

I too was concerned about this at one time, really.

But please consider;

If a particular Team wins a Match and proceeds in the Competition to the next Round, why in the world would this “successful” Team choose to replace one of its “successful” Team members, with another member from an “unsuccessful” Team, that obviously had already lost in the same Competition?

I say obviously because they are now “available”. Trust me, it would be pointless, and does not happen.

Other factors to think about;

Clan Wars contests are long, and stuff happens, so Teams occasionally have to fill vacated Team player spots. We have to allow for that.

And the flip side of the advantage theory is that a Clan that enters multiple Teams will probably either have one strong Team, and weaker ones (no advantage there), or split there strong players between Teams (which is even a worse advantage ).

Most Clans that enter multiple Teams do it to give other members experience in the competitive arena, simple as that. They still have their “first” Team, and who knows maybe they will get a surprise from their "second" string? It happens!



The more Clan members you have raises the possibility that you will have more strong players, but in no way guarantees that this will be the case

[Tomisama]

Please indulge me a little further, as I believe there is a very important point at the bottom of all this.

Above I said;

The more Clan members you have raises the possibility that you will have more strong players, but in no way guarantees that this will be the case.

In fact history proves this not only not-to-be-true, but the opposite happens.

We have had Clan with over fifty members who did not fair better than Clans who had only three or four players. In the dynamics of Clan life there seems to be a basic principal that only so many strong players will congregate in a single group. That if other similar strong players come along, that they either will not join, or will soon leave and form or join another Clan with less strong players.

If this were not true, there would be reining Clans in our competitions, and there are not! As it works, everybody has a chance to put forward a winning Team, because it is just that, “a Team”! It is the Teams that win Team competitions, not individuals, no matter how strong of players they are.

We have had proof of that also in the history of our community competitions.

It’s all about teamwork


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[YellowMelon]

But that means clans with more people have a larger chance to win. I am looking at a clan like RTK for example, who have (over time) amalgamated several quality clans. My clan is small so we can only field one team or so, whereas RTK can field probably 2 equally good teams as us (just projecting). Now if they divide up their talent so they have 2 very good captains, now they might do fairly well. But say one clan draws Imperial who are very good, and the other draws (well I'll be politically correct and use my clan as the garbage draw), then one team will probably win and the other will lose.

So now you have twice as good a chance of drawing a weaker first round team because of dividing and conquering. Once the one team is beat, they can draw the team captain from another team and substitute a weaker player.

In the end I don't really care, I'm just saying that larger clans have a bigger advantage in this format than smaller clans. They have second chances to win, boost their prestige by placing, whereas my clan would have one shot.

[Tomisama]

Now up to 31 Teams, and the Russians are joining in for the first time.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=112978

I hear they are very good players.

We'll see

[Kalle]

CWC again at last!!!

Kalle