Clan Wars Competition

[Tomisama]

I disagree with the notion that once a team advances to a certain stage they can be filled in by clan members who played on a separate team, as you told Grendy. i think if they register one team they should have to play on that team, otherwise clans who can field more teams have an advantage.

I too was concerned about this at one time, really.

But please consider;

If a particular Team wins a Match and proceeds in the Competition to the next Round, why in the world would this “successful” Team choose to replace one of its “successful” Team members, with another member from an “unsuccessful” Team, that obviously had already lost in the same Competition?

I say obviously because they are now “available”. Trust me, it would be pointless, and does not happen.

Other factors to think about;

Clan Wars contests are long, and stuff happens, so Teams occasionally have to fill vacated Team player spots. We have to allow for that.

And the flip side of the advantage theory is that a Clan that enters multiple Teams will probably either have one strong Team, and weaker ones (no advantage there), or split there strong players between Teams (which is even a worse advantage ).

Most Clans that enter multiple Teams do it to give other members experience in the competitive arena, simple as that. They still have their “first” Team, and who knows maybe they will get a surprise from their "second" string? It happens!



The more Clan members you have raises the possibility that you will have more strong players, but in no way guarantees that this will be the case

[Tomisama]

Please indulge me a little further, as I believe there is a very important point at the bottom of all this.

Above I said;

The more Clan members you have raises the possibility that you will have more strong players, but in no way guarantees that this will be the case.

In fact history proves this not only not-to-be-true, but the opposite happens.

We have had Clan with over fifty members who did not fair better than Clans who had only three or four players. In the dynamics of Clan life there seems to be a basic principal that only so many strong players will congregate in a single group. That if other similar strong players come along, that they either will not join, or will soon leave and form or join another Clan with less strong players.

If this were not true, there would be reining Clans in our competitions, and there are not! As it works, everybody has a chance to put forward a winning Team, because it is just that, “a Team”! It is the Teams that win Team competitions, not individuals, no matter how strong of players they are.

We have had proof of that also in the history of our community competitions.

It’s all about teamwork


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[YellowMelon]

But that means clans with more people have a larger chance to win. I am looking at a clan like RTK for example, who have (over time) amalgamated several quality clans. My clan is small so we can only field one team or so, whereas RTK can field probably 2 equally good teams as us (just projecting). Now if they divide up their talent so they have 2 very good captains, now they might do fairly well. But say one clan draws Imperial who are very good, and the other draws (well I'll be politically correct and use my clan as the garbage draw), then one team will probably win and the other will lose.

So now you have twice as good a chance of drawing a weaker first round team because of dividing and conquering. Once the one team is beat, they can draw the team captain from another team and substitute a weaker player.

In the end I don't really care, I'm just saying that larger clans have a bigger advantage in this format than smaller clans. They have second chances to win, boost their prestige by placing, whereas my clan would have one shot.

[Tomisama]

Now up to 31 Teams, and the Russians are joining in for the first time.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=112978

I hear they are very good players.

We'll see

[Kalle]

CWC again at last!!!

Kalle

[ArmaEtLorica Mongoclint]

I was wondering if it would be possible to make one major rule change to the CWC. How about scheduling matches for regular times each week like in regular sports. Meeting up seems to be one of the biggest hang-ups with recriminations over who did or didn't show up seeming to be one of the most contentious issues. So, for example, the first round matches must be played from a list of time slots set by the admins, mostly on Sunday and/or Saturday with some midweek spots open too. With some exeptions allowed, such as one rescheduling per tournament. That way we're not finishing the spring match in December. If clans can't make it on their scheduled day, they forfeit. (And my clan with few members is highly likely to hit this a time or two.) However, it really drags a lot of the fun out when matches stretch on forever. If one member can't show up, you could show leniency towards mercs and again, allow one reschedule per tournament or something. Anyway, just a thought.

Mongo

[Tomisama]

Thanks Kalle

I was wondering if it would be possible to make one major rule change to the CWC. How about scheduling matches for regular times each week like in regular sports. Meeting up seems to be one of the biggest hang-ups with recriminations over who did or didn't show up seeming to be one of the most contentious issues. So, for example, the first round matches must be played from a list of time slots set by the admins, mostly on Sunday and/or Saturday with some midweek spots open too. With some exeptions allowed, such as one rescheduling per tournament. That way we're not finishing the spring match in December. If clans can't make it on their scheduled day, they forfeit. (And my clan with few members is highly likely to hit this a time or two.) However, it really drags a lot of the fun out when matches stretch on forever. If one member can't show up, you could show leniency towards mercs and again, allow one reschedule per tournament or something. Anyway, just a thought.

Mongo

Hi Mongo

Being that our contestants can come from half way around the world from each other, prearranging meeting times for all concerned just would not be practical. This is still the Clan Emissaries primary responsibility. We have, and will do all we can to support the process. Some new regulations (below) help us keep things moving.

Amendments:

A. No Show Rule
If you will not be able to make an agreed to meeting time, you need to post (or have someone else post) that information on your Battle Assignment thread. This must be done a minimum of one hour before the set time.

If you are going to be late for an agreed to meeting time, that too must be posted on your Battle Assignment thread, before the actual Match time. That way, when your opponent does not find you online, they can check here to be reassured that you are coming.

Fail on either of these responsibilities, and your opponent can claim a default win of the Match.

C. The Communication Rule
“9. Each Clan must post "at least" once a week in their respective Battle Assignment thread, or they will be considered inactive. Their Team will automatically be dropped from the contest, and their Clan banned from future Clan Wars participation of this game release.”

Even if you have nothing in particular to post, just say that you are "checking in", so that we know that you are still with us. And if necessary, any member from your Clan can post in your stead if life gets too complicated. In fact, it is highly recommended that you have an "appointed" backup Emissary, just in case they are needed.

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