Clan Wars Competition

[Judge]

Dam that Shields :)

Thanks Tomi, we are currently in discussion as who wants to participate and be the emissary etc.

[ArmaEtLorica Mongoclint]

First, I would like to say that you and the admins do a wonderful job with this competition, and it is certainly well run and long lasting. I can't believe the unpaid time you guys take to organize these things and I am really looking forward to continued participation.

I would just like to make one more plea, however, since I think Krook had a great compromise idea allowing for all the worldwide time zones. Two weeks where clans try to arrange the meet themselves, and if not accomplished, the admins pick a final match date in consultation with clan emissaries (or not).

mongo

[Tomisama]

Ok

I will take all of these ideas, and compare them to existing rules on the revision before this contest starts. Wherever they can be easily integrated into the existing framework, we will do that. Wherever they can not, we will establish a special administrative oversight directive to make sure we are paying attention to these possible trouble areas.

The things I am avoiding; airing private discussions (who did what to who, and what we did about it), creating more rules than there already are (have been there and done that, it doesn’t work), and exacting too harsh of character in the administration of Clan Wars ( I still own an apology to Celtibero Lerend for once telling him to “get out”, and that will never happen again).

I sincerely appreciate both of your efforts in bringing these matters to my attention. Sorry if I lean first to the defensive…

[KrooK]

Gah Tomisama - you did not understand me.

I like CWC - it reminds me who I were long time ago. It was my first team online tourney and first victory.
It has great tradition but .... its staying into same place. It reached its level about 3 years ago and then nothing....while rest keep moving. Claiming that no changes are necessary you block yourself future.

I don't think I will be even admin of any tourney because I simply have no patience for lazy clans. Which means that I have no experience into finding solutions. But I was playing into many CWC competitions and I have experience that you haven't - participant experience. I see what is annoying players cause it annoys me. Do you think its fair that noob clan delay competitions for 3 months and then tell that "ups we have no players now, they don't like this boring game - so we quit, but next cwc we will join again".


CWC was good tourney but it needs some changes. Total War scene is rising and need more organisation.

gl hf
KrooK

[Tomisama]

Gah Tomisama - you did not understand me.

I’m working on it

But you see there is opposition in the fact that the Admin Council have just recently agreed to wipe the slate clean for all concerned, and start over with this new game era.

So all Clans banned have been returned to active status, and we will now all start over. We did not throw the records of past abuses away, in case we need to verify a continuing pattern of bad behavior. But everyone is going to get a fresh start, and being a little older and hopefully a little wiser, maybe they will be able to get it right this time.

So for better or worse we have opened the Bastille, and you may see folks who have caused problems before, back in the ranks. That does not mean that we are lax in governing the situation. Nor does the fact that you do not see all of the PMs, emails, and posts on other websites, that are pretty consistently taking place behind the scenes, mean that we are not actively working to correct and guide the progress of events.

Please know that things are almost never black or white, and we are often caught between being excessively lenient or having to destroy the very thing we are trying to build

As I said, I will do all I can to incorporate your recommendations, and we will do our best to make this Spring’s tournament the best we have ever had!

Thanks again Krook and Mongo. You are the reason we continue to try

[Monarch]

I would just like to make one more plea, however, since I think Krook had a great compromise idea allowing for all the worldwide time zones. Two weeks where clans try to arrange the meet themselves, and if not accomplished, the admins pick a final match date in consultation with clan emissaries (or not).

mongo

So whatever date the admins pick, players are supposed to ignore all their real life responsibilities (which can include stuff like children, work, school etc.) and play Total War?

[Tomisama]

So whatever date the admins pick, players are supposed to ignore all their real life responsibilities (which can include stuff like children, work, school etc.) and play Total War?

We would always pick the most reasonable time for all concerned

But it really won't be necessary, as we will be going with a set time limit.

With so many Teams lined up for this first Empire Tournament, and the end having to be before summer vacations kick in, we have to go with 3 weeks (including 3 weekends).

The very first Round will be the only exception at five weeks from Battle Assignments posting. Notice I said Assignments (plural), as each Clan Team will have two separate Matches to manage. And going through this for the first time, will be a little challenging. But after that, it will quickly become routine.

As far as real life is concerned, we all know that stuff happens. But stuff happens in real war also, but the work must go on. With now 36 four player Teams, playing in two simultaneous competitions (land and naval), that’s 288 individual participants playing in the first Battles of the first Rounds alone. We can not possibly hold up everything because of personal schedules.

The Clans “must plan” for all eventualities, and have backups standing ready to fill-in as nessisary. Those who are not prepared will loose by default.

The fortunes of war I’m afraid.

[KrooK]

Monarch - exactly. If you have family, work, school et cetera, it means you are responsible man.
If you are responsible man - you can manage your life into way that let you organise your time correctly.
And your problems are not problems of rest. I would never accept situation whem I'm arranging meeting, organise men from few continects and 5 min before start.... I'm not appearing cause I have to do my homework.