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    Default Vladimir Vysotsky

    Do any of you know about this guy?

    He was nicknamed the "Bard" in the Soviet Union when he was alive.

    Here, listen to his "Song about a friend" with a passable translation (click on Аудио).

    A really good singer and songwriter.
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    Default Re: Vladimir Vysotsky

    His voice usually makes me cry...
    "Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"

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    Default Re: Vladimir Vysotsky

    I'll take that as a compliment.

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    He was up there with the best of the best.
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    I'm sorry and I do not mean to offend you, but he cannot sing for beans, he just yells. He sounds like a growling barbarian or something. :P Sorry, I just do not like it at all. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by desert View Post
    I'll take that as a compliment.
    Of course it is
    "Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"

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    I can understand people's fascination with this guy, including his voice.

    May I recommend our own Russian bard, Drs P. (linky)?

    By the way, I love your siggy, Tristuskhan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    I can understand people's fascination with this guy, including his voice.

    May I recommend our own Russian bard, Drs P. (linky)?

    By the way, I love your siggy, Tristuskhan.
    Now this Dutch guy is very interesting. What can you tell me about him?
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    Default Re: Vladimir Vysotsky

    Could you say translate this song for me?

    Thanks,
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    Default Re: Vladimir Vysotsky

    He has an interesting voice, but...


    I'm sorry and I do not mean to offend you, but he cannot sing for beans, he just yells. He sounds like a growling barbarian or something. :P Sorry, I just do not like it at all. :P



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    Now this Dutch guy is very interesting. What can you tell me about him?
    He was a brilliant singer and comedian, extremely good with words. His songs and poetry were totally absurd, yet very entertaining. A bit of a crossing between Hugh Laurie and Dudley Moore, if that means anything to you. Drs P. is now 90 years old and he hasn't been active fore a decade. The clip you linked is a parody of him, no doubt in good faith because he is greatly loved and appreciated among Dutch comedians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    He was a brilliant singer and comedian, extremely good with words. His songs and poetry were totally absurd, yet very entertaining. A bit of a crossing between Hugh Laurie and Dudley Moore, if that means anything to you. Drs P. is now 90 years old and he hasn't been active fore a decade. The clip you linked is a parody of him, no doubt in good faith because he is greatly loved and appreciated among Dutch comedians.
    I realise that it is a parody (it has to be, cause he was much skinnier :P). I am curious as to the lyrics though. (I do not speak Dutch :P thank goodness! )
    Thanks Adrian!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I realise that it is a parody (it has to be, cause he was much skinnier :P). I am curious as to the lyrics though. (I do not speak Dutch :P thank goodness! )
    Thanks Adrian!
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    Welcome, I was beginning to feel guilty for derailing the thread. I don't have any English texts by Drs P. or any translations into English, sorry. I do know however that he published one collection of poems and songs in foreing languages including English. The book is called Lyriana. I'd be interested to see it myself. Maybe we are lucky and some other member has it on his shelf.

    Look, I found some isolated piece on a website:

    The oldsters come and let their

    arteries harden While drinking in stale music and

    fresh air The younger ones take no more than

    their share There is a hint of chivalry and Arden

    Though Pond's, one gathers, is more

    widely sold There's goodwill and contentment as

    of old (They're playing In a Monastery

    Garden)
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    lol, what the heck does that mean? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    lol, what the heck does that mean? :P
    Technically speaking, young man, this is a short narrative poem in free verse based on assonance and alliteration about a concert in a monastery garden.

    So there.
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    We're riding in a Troika down a forest without end
    it's thirty below zero which will drive you round the bend
    The horses' hooves are grinding through the snow so crisp and clean
    a Siberian night is falling, and no lions can be seen

    We travel with the children even though they're very young
    through endless woods as I already mentioned in this song
    the scenery is beautiful, but wild, so I believe
    and that there are no lions is a source of great relief

    We're on our way to Omsk although the road is very long
    To bide the time we cheer each other up by singing songs
    But then I see a movement in the distance far away
    It's dark and it is multiple and makes me quite afraid

    Although they are still far away, I see them very clear
    there seem to be a lot of them and quickly they come near
    They get too close to us by being very fleet of foot
    our family's in danger and that can't be very good

    They're menacing and dark, and very rapid as they run
    I see it now, they're quadrupeds, they're clearly having fun
    with great big teeth and shiny eyes that I can clearly see
    they must be wolves, and mean ones too, this really bothers me

    But though things are precarious, I will not panic yet
    I keep the spirits high by singing loudly this, and that
    We certainly know all our songs, and sing along we do
    the wolves are sticking close to us as if with superglue

    From here to Omsk it is about a hundred Werst, I think
    So I am really glad we changed the horses this morning
    But all the same the wolves caught up and this is not so nice
    I see the hungry appetite is gleaming in their eyes

    But still we act all nonchalant, and sing with steady breath
    whilst we are only too aware of our impending deaths
    So I turn to my darling wife and whisper in her ear
    "Who are we going to sacrifice, because we must, my dear"

    What do you think of Igor? no! He plays the violin!
    Nor can it be Natasha as in Chess she always wins.
    Sonja can't be it, indeed, her voice is really nice.
    So Pjotr draws the shortest straw, he has to pay the price.

    And while we sing I grab the little rascal by the heels
    and off he flies into the night with one almighty squeal
    This juicy morsel does distract the wolves, and while they dine
    We pull away from them again as we sing "auld lang syne"

    We really do appreciate that Pjotr's edible
    Because it means we lose the wolves for a good while until
    They trail off in the distance like the remnants of a dream
    and we sing "Row, Row, Row the boat and don't forget to scream"

    But then we hear the howling and our hopes do fade once more
    So Sonja takes the plunge as she goes flying overboard
    There she goes, poor little thing, we ponder as she falls
    And all the while it's "Humpty dumpty sitting on the wall"

    All this does make me pensive and my wife is teary eyed
    but there's no time to reflect now the wolves are back beside
    So Igor I'm afraid you won't be playing for the crowd
    Just fifty-two more Werst and "I'm a tea-pot short and stout"

    With Igor gone for just a while our peace has been restored
    but back they are as if to make damn sure we don't get bored
    Natasha's dying scream will cut through us just like a knife
    While we were singing of Jack Prat and of his hungry wife

    So now it's a duet between myself and Mrs me
    And with a bit of luck we make it in time for Tea
    But then I have to hand her over to the hungry pack
    and sang about the little ducks, just one came swimming back

    But then I cheer up quite a bit because I see Omsk's lights
    And as I jump with glee I trip and fall into the night
    And while the wolves devour me my last respects I pay
    to Omsk, which is a lovely town, but just that bit too far away

    Troika here, Troika there
    Yes, you see them everywhere
    Troika here, Troika there
    Stuffed with straw and horse's hair
    Troika here, Troika there
    We deliver out of stock
    Troika here, Troika there
    Gents' attire and ladies' frocks
    Troika here, Troika there
    Omsk is just that bit to far
    Troika here, Troika there
    Long live our beloved Tzar!


    I take it that the lyrics have a deep political meaning? Anyone know what it is?
    Hammer, anvil, forge and fire, chase away The Hoofed Liar. Roof and doorway, block and beam, chase The Trickster from our dreams.
    Vigilance is our shield, that protects us from our squalid past. Knowledge is our weapon, with which we carve a path to an enlightened future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    In a racial conflict I'd have no problem popping off some negroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    Troika here, Troika there
    I am Adrian's overwhelming surprise that you got hold of this. Where did you find it? And yes, no doubt there are hidden political codes, pornographic images and eurocentrist views in there.


    Trioka hier, troika daar
    Kijk, daar loopt een ooievaar
    Trioka hier, troika daar
    Basgitaar en klapsigaar
    Trioka hier, troika daar
    Flinkgebouwde weduwnaar
    Troika hier,troika daar
    Twee halfom en een tartaar
    Last edited by Adrian II; 02-21-2009 at 20:05.
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