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    Here's an interesting read my father linked to me earlier today:

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1064852.html

    I'm writing my paper on the Iranian nuclear program, and with this coming into light, I wondered what your opinions were, fellow backroomers.
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    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.
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    As such, the reported goal of Israel's covert campaign is to delay or interrupt the Iranian research program, without engaging in a direct confrontation that could lead to a wider war.
    that is fine

    Israel is assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists
    that is not

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.
    You are seriously defending out-and-out murder of members of the scientific community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    You are seriously defending out-and-out murder of members of the scientific community?
    Yes? If Israel has intelligence to indicate that Iran is expanding nuclear capability to the potential detriment of Israel, then it makes sense to stall that program, does it not? Or does the left have no sense of pragmatism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    Yes? If Israel has intelligence to indicate that Iran is expanding nuclear capability to the potential detriment of Israel, then it makes sense to stall that program, does it not? Or does the left have no sense of pragmatism?
    No, the left has a respect for science and those who practise it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    No, the left has a respect for science and those who practise it.
    I thought the far-"libertarian"-left had little respect for the arms industry.

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    What Israel is doing is terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    What Israel is doing is terrorism.
    How is it terrorism? They're not going in with the objective to cause terror to anyone - they're going in with the objective to target individuals. Trust me, if they were terrorizing people, people would, you know, be terrorized. This is accepting that article as fact, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    How is it terrorism? They're not going in with the objective to cause terror to anyone - they're going in with the objective to target individuals. Trust me, if they were terrorizing people, people would, you know, be terrorized. This is accepting that article as fact, of course.
    I never said they were wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I never said they were wrong.


    I still disagree with your definition though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post


    I still disagree with your definition though.
    A spade is a spade
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.
    So is it OK for the Iranian regime to start sending assassins specifically targeting Israel's military scientists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    So is it OK for the Iranian regime to start sending assassins specifically targeting Israel's military scientists?
    It's not ok but it's not morally reprehensible either. These countries made there beds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    It's not ok but it's not morally reprehensible either. These countries made there beds.
    You can't, like, set it and forget it, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    So is it OK for the Iranian regime to start sending assassins specifically targeting Israel's military scientists?
    Sure. Heck, I bet they've tried. I would presume that Israel would be able to defend the scientists, but that is another matter.

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    Sure why not, anyone and everyone is fair game, as i have been told countless times here, boo hoo war is hell get over it. So 9/11, the holocaust, Gaza '08 and murdering of scientists, all is fair in love and war...

    Just don't expect me to condemn the latest terrorist attack in whatever country suffers it...
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    Let's see.

    The President of Iran, backed by some pragmatical bast---ds known as the Mullahs, swears on a stack of Korans, may the blessing be upon the prophet, that he would wipe Isreal off the map. No matter that he also has publically stated that the holocaust never happened, he also just happens to preside over the very scientists he claims are just working on Nuclear power for peacful means. It may be true, but then pigs do fly in the land of OZ too.

    Can anyone blame Isreal, a country that has been fighting for its existence almost from the day of its founding from a horde of various Muslim countries, for being equally pragmatical bast---ds? Believe me that they will certainly be more so if and when the Iranians have the actual weapons. If that does happen, they will strike with more than a few operatives taking the lives of a scientist or two.
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    But they condemn the actions of terrorists murdering innocent Israeli's in attempt to stop the Israeli state from progressing - I fail to see the difference

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    gut says no not good at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    gut says no not good at all
    I'm suprised by that Fragony.
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    edit awwwwwwwwwwww I can take a joke
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    The President of Iran, backed by some pragmatical bast---ds known as the Mullahs, swears on a stack of Korans, may the blessing be upon the prophet, that he would wipe Isreal off the map.
    This has been mistranslated, Ahmadinejad has said it himself. Also, I fail to see why Iran cannot develop its own nuclear program for peaceful reasons while other countries do have that right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    This has been mistranslated, Ahmadinejad has said it himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    I'm suprised by that Fragony.
    Yeah I was fairly sure that I was going to roll my eyes at whatever Frag wrote, but I was presently surprised.
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    I'm all for it.

    I am convinced that iran pursues a nuclear weapons program & I do not trust them to possess it.
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    Israel is based on Jews first (the chosen people, after all) and everything else second. No other life is worth anything if it helps protect a Jew.

    SO, they assassinate Scientists. Is that really so surprising or such a big deal? Thousands are locked in an open prison to punish the fanatical terrorists that live amongst them. At least picking off some top egg heads might actually work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    I'm all for it.

    I am convinced that iran pursues a nuclear weapons program & I do not trust them to possess it.
    You know? How? Or do you not care about the killing of scientists who are suspected of making nuclear weopns, and I don't trust America with their nuclear weopons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanus View Post
    I also heard Israelies eat palestinian babies for breakfast.
    Yep, I've heard the same thing.
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