This is a fiction perpetuated to justify internal repression and external aggression.Originally Posted by hooahguy
Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
This is a fiction perpetuated to justify internal repression and external aggression.
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Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
i love it how you like to claim fact as fiction.
answer me this:
if you had a steak, and there was a 50% chance that it was poisoned, would you eat it?
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Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
No - but then i wouldn't shoot the butcher, the milkmaid, the chef, the waiter and half the diners just to be on the safe side...
After WW2 whilst we are pretending to capture Nazi war criminals the majority were being spirited away by the Allies' secret services. To some, the ends always will justify the means.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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but i would shoot the person who tried to poison me....No - but then i wouldn't shoot the butcher, the milkmaid, the chef, the waiter and half the diners just to be on the safe side...
After WW2 whilst we are pretending to capture Nazi war criminals the majority were being spirited away by the Allies' secret services. To some, the ends always will justify the means.
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Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
If you know who they are.
Wouldn't life be simple if they had neon signs pointing at them, their motives were utterly selfish and they lived far from anyone else.
Letting a gun off in a crowd and blaming teh crowd for getting shot is a poor excuse.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
If you look at the most recent numbers 1/3 of the casualties was collatoral damage (what a horrible word) but let's not forget that it's one of the most densely populated regions in the world, where over 50% of the population is under 18. Israel obviously goes to great lenghts to prevent them, and let's not even get started about Hamas using civilians as human shields while hiding with a handycam.
Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
which is my country?
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Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
"I don't trust your country with the power it has, especially as it has the track record of being the most violent nation on the planet."
i repeat; which is my country?
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one more time?
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Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
that 'fiction' is perpetuated in no small part by public military parades where ballistic missiles are daubed with slogans such as "death to israel".
that is good enough for me, and it appears to be justification enough for israel too.
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Re: Israel: Murdering scientists?
Fiction? Perhaps so, at least since the 1960s, but not at the outset. Israeli paranoia may no longer be justified, save as the kind of political tool you suggest, but at the outset of the state, pretty much everybody around them WAS out to get them.
Once part of the cultural mind-set, paranoia is also notoriously persistent. So the "fiction" you are suggesting may be more of a self-fulfilling prophecy than a calculated political tool.
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