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    Back a few months, there was a thread somewhere (which I cannot locate by searching ) which went along the lines of people aren't spelling correctly.

    The idea was put forward by quite a few people that perhaps a few members should be appointed as, perhaps shall we say, grammer nazis that go around and edit something akin to this "OMG U LEIK TOTES HAX0r R0C|Cz0R" into readable english.

    I just thought I would bring it up for discussion, would something like this work?
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    I don't know, maybe if we find enough misantrophic volunteers ...

    Tbh, I'm not in favour of this proposal. Bad language cannot be suppressed and while leetspeak has a tendency to derail threads, more often than not intelligence will prevail.

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    It would be an idea, and not one which I would oppose either. Maybe minor stuff should be permissible, but what you suggest shouldn't be really - I don't understand it. We probably should try incentives and rigorous advertisement campaigns first before turning into grammar fascists IMO.

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    I don't like the idea of someone else, other than moderators, being able to tinker with my post. Adding and subtracting whatever the see fit. I can handle editing myself, thank you.

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    I offer to edit any post. I won't change a thing but the spelling. Honest.
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    I prefer casual conversation to a serious academic atmosphere. People take many of the discussions too seriously as it is.

    I always corrected spelling in the thread title though, because I figured whoever posted the thread would want me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    because I figured whoever posted the thread would want me too.
    Why would they want you too? Are you thát attractive
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    Hahaha, perfect. *slaps Andres high five*

    And just so my post actually counts for something, I'm not sure if this is necessary. Let the offenders learn by example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    Why would they want you too? Are you thát attractive
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I offer to edit any post. I won't change a thing but the spelling. Honest.
    Just cuz u wanna add a buncha "u" 's where they don't belong.

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    They can try to edit my posts but I will win that battle
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    Back A few months ago, there was a thread somewhere, (which I cannot locate by searching ) that I can no longer locate, which went along the lines of generally stated that people aren't spelling correctly.

    In that thread the idea was put forward, by quite a few people, that perhaps a few members should be appointed as, perhaps shall we say, Grammar Nazis, whose job would be to that go around and edit something akin to this improper posts, such as "OMG U LEIK TOTES HAX0r R0C|Cz0R," into readable English.

    I just thought I would bring it this up for discussion once again. Would something an arrangement like this work be feasible and, if so, desirable?
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    That

    Edit: Somehow i posted halfway through my post. I was going to say it looks a lot better Grammar Nazied. Grammar and Nazi are capitalised words ?

    Edit 2: Ok, Nazi like Labour or Conservative but Grammar ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I offer to edit any post. I won't change a thing but the spelling. Honest.
    Don't go making promises that you can't keep. I really don't think this would be a feasible idea. If I can't read and/or comprehend the leetspeak or whatever then I'm not part of the target audience...and I'm okay with that. Some things are just better left as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
    That

    Edit: Somehow i posted halfway through my post. I was going to say it looks a lot better Grammar Nazied. Grammar and Nazi are capitalised words ?

    Edit 2: Ok, Nazi like Labour or Conservative but Grammar ?
    Grammar Nazi is a proper noun that refers to a specific omniscient being that embodies all that is good and right with the world. On occassion, this being has been known to inhabit one or more mortal bodies, with the aim of bestowing wisdom and enlightenment upon the pedestrian masses. It is sometimes referred to as God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen
    "OMG U LEIK TOTES HAX0r R0C|Cz0R"
    Just to point out that this is mostly American/English problem. Those, whose are not native English speakers, usually try to write as best as they can. Yes, spelling errors will occur and sentences are a bit odd but at least they try.
    But every time I see a post "OMG LOL U M KKHDMWIBUS@%543" (plus some letters and more numbers)makes me wonder what does those teachers there do all day long in schools! My 2 year old son writes like that!
    People from other countries don't speak your English dialect!!
    So it would be good if moderators could make those kind of post readable.
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    Don't you realisze that all the labour required to correct posts will be wasted?

    If we allow this we are gonna get a bunch of American moderators adding 'z' everywhere and taking 'u' out of their proper places.

    Then the English mods will retaliate because 'z'-ing your 's'-es is bloody preposterous...

    ...and then we ll have a US-UK war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun View Post
    Just to point out that this is mostly American/English problem. Those, whose are not native English speakers, usually try to write as best as they can. Yes, spelling errors will occur and sentences are a bit odd but at least they try.
    But every time I see a post "OMG LOL U M KKHDMWIBUS@%543" (plus some letters and more numbers)makes me wonder what does those teachers there do all day long in schools! My 2 year old son writes like that!
    People from other countries don't speak you English dialect!!
    So it would be good if moderators could make those kind of post readable.
    I'm no native speaker either

    Meh, I think it would be better to replace this so called "1337-sp34k" by the notion "[insert random nonsense]".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    I'm no native speaker either

    Meh, I think it would be better to replace this so called "1337-sp34k" by the notion "[insert random nonsense]".
    Most non-native speakers i've met, either online or off, seem to write with better grammar than I do. I normally need about three edits to make mine seem as if I am not speaking craziness.
    Last edited by Monk; 02-20-2009 at 15:59. Reason: edits cuz i was TALKING CRAZINESS

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    For every one person who genuinely finds the correction useful there will be one who finds it demeaning to be corrected, another who is irked by another person meddling with their post, and three who do not care. For every five people who appreciate it there will be one who posts a corrected version of the correction, and engages on a debate to enlighten the one who made the edit.

    Don't forget that some people are sensitive about their writing capabilities. Jumping in to edit like this would threaten to silence that section of the populace; I could see them refraining from posting from a combination of fear of being corrected and from embarrassment about their posting style.

    As has been said, there are many here who speak English as a second/third/tenth language. I'm always in awe of their skill level, and have great respect for the effort that has gone into learning English. I would never offer a correction unless asked for one; it feels very condescending.

    Anything to do with such a sensitive area needs to be fully voluntary, and on a basis which works for the volunteer. It cannot work as a blanket thing.
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    Maybe when certain people (perhaps designated, perhaps not) reply to the message they can append corrected/alternative spellings to the end of their reply, so that the thread shows up on searches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    I prefer casual conversation to a serious academic atmosphere. People take many of the discussions too seriously as it is.
    I agree whole heartedly, it forms a feeling of embarrassment if a member keeps getting there posts corrected when there happy with them, it's just plain interfering and not needed as long as you know what they mean. People keep complaining about my grammar but I insist it's not that bad!

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    I like your idea, but it would be difficult to implement. The problem for me is that some of these editors would have different ways of writing specific word, so for example (to make it E:TW-friendly) the British would spell "revolutionise" while the Americans would spell "revolutionize". Although for leetspeak or whatever it's called, I understand completely, but how many users do we see here who just type like blocks of leetspeak?

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    How about we ban the offenders?
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    How about we just start a voluntary thread, where anyone who wants editing can post.
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