Playing with the TWC

[Beefy187]

Got a reply from Jubal saying he is too busy atm, and I should discuss with Thermal Mercury (Ares) and DisgruntledGoat..

Ares, seeing as your the sub don of the TWC, could you spread the words to your people please? If everyone is willing to join then I think its good to go.

5i6u2d sounds nice and strong

[Caius]

Yes please Caius

Here is my idea:
There should be a town, which debates between joining COMECOM of the CCCP or the Marshall Pact of the US.

Every member gets a number, which varies to +3 to -3, +3 being Ultimate Capitalist follower and -3 Ultimate Marxist follower. Those who get +3, +2, +1 are capitalists, and will try to get the other band lynched. The same thing goes to the Communist side.

There will be two journalists, one per band. Those journalist would wrote a write up on how the other is ruining the town, ruining liberty and slaving you to the capitalist system, etcetera. What players won't know that those journalists will write everything that happened, except some posts that they send to delete (for the convenience of the band they are in). In this way, there will be people who get the number 0, they are undecided. They will join one or the other band, but it will take some turns to join one or the other team.

If there is a communist that joins capitalism (need to work that, 2:30 am here), the Ultimate marxist follower will kill that person. Any mention of that person amongst comrades will mean traition, so, that person will literally disapear from the list of alive players (shame on me creating nonpersons in this game). Same thing will happen if a capitalist joins the communist side.

There will be a CIA agent, detective, and a KGB detective also. They won't get guilty / not guilty results, but they will get commie/capitalist results instead.

The undecided will remain undecided until they change the situation. If they join one or other band, they will have one objective: cause kaos, killing the suporters of the enemy side. Lynching and group killing.

Loses the side that gets all the suporters killed or lynched.

That was my idea. I would like to host it, but don't have all the time.

[Beefy187]

Good idea for the game. I think TWC and Org players should start on different ends to make this work.
I can't see how conversion from Communist to Capitalist and vice versa is going to work but thats about the only problem I can spot. If you can think of something to cover that, maybe...

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, how did you get your name then?

Sigurd the Psychotic Rodeo Clown
Sigurettes Cause Lung Cancer
Baron Sigurd of Blousebottom, Ravager of Laundromats
Sigurd II: The Revenge
Sigurd III: Return of the Fafnesbane
Sigurd, Bane of Fafnes

What a day this has come to, when the Moderators of the Org have taken to spamming people's threads. I have this to say to you, TinCow, Sigurd, and all you other bad moderators:

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When the law enforcement break the law, who will save us from the chaos and the panicking in the streets and the bleeding and the pain and the agony and the "ow ow ow it hurts me"?

PIZZZZZZZAAAAAAA GUYYYY!!!!

Caped crusader for justice! Master of the deadly art of intercontinental flatulence warfare! Exuberant and self-important! Ridiculously long winded vigilante, with incredible superpowers given to him by the Almighty, such as the ability to drown out all conversation in other people's mafia games and generally make an arse of himself! Secretly a coward, but on the outside, carries a shield of impenetrable annoyance! When cornered, has the ability to use self-deprecating humor to silence his critics and attract throngs of women! Beloved by all!

No, he's not.

Beloved by ALL!

What about....

BELOVED BY ALL!!!!

On-topic: I'd love to bring TWC'ers over here and I'd like maybe host a few games over there. It would reduce the workload of the moderators over here.... if either of you object to the idea, please PM me.

[Beefy187]

On-topic: I'd love to bring TWC'ers over here and I'd like maybe host a few games over there. It would reduce the workload of the moderators over here.... if either of you object to the idea, please PM me.

Are you suggesting two games (one here and one there?)

[Askthepizzaguy]

actually I was just suggesting I could relieve the backlog of games that I have by hosting a few over there, and maybe being an assistant moderator there so I can moderate them myself. That means the moderators here won't be burdened. And I will PROMISE to recruit players only when the ones at the Org have already passed their signup phase and have begun.


What say you, Andres, Sigurd? Do you mind?

[Andres]

The Org and the Gameroom are what you guys make of it. If it's a game and it needs to be on a forum, then the Gameroom is the place to be. We our just your humble servants moderating this place

The only immediate problem I see on the subject of organising, could be timing and our queue and that it needs to be coordinated with the TWC.

As I understand, a TWC-Org game would be a once a year event?

Once you guys worked out the general concept and agreed on practical organisational stuff with the TWC guys, it would be good to just pick a start date in the not too near future (e.g. within 4 or 5 months).

If it's big and good, we can then find a way to put the queue on hold on a set date that can be announced well before hand, so that nobody feels treated unfair.

I think you guys first need to work out the concept and the ideas, at least the larger framework. Then we can chose a date and you can use the time in between to work out the details and setup of the game.

Just my

actually I was just suggesting I could relieve the backlog of games that I have by hosting a few over there, and maybe being an assistant moderator there so I can moderate them myself. That means the moderators here won't be burdened. And I will PROMISE to recruit players only when the ones at the Org have already passed their signup phase and have begun.

Hey, it are your games, so it's up to you where you want to host them.

Obviously, being able to host on the Org is worth the wait

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok, thanks for addressing my concerns Andres.

You're darn right I want to host them here... but the wait for the large games is far too long. I just wanted to make sure I addressed ANY concerns you might have of me hosting larger games elsewhere, both for the reasons of potentially stealing players, looking like I am avoiding the queue system just so I can have my way, or any other potential conflicts.

I am attempting to correct any headaches before they happen. If there were no games in the signup phase, I would recruit players here and bring them to TWC so we can stretch ourselves a little and I can host the larger games without having to wait a year or two to do so.

If there are EVER any problems, send me a message right away. I will do my best to avoid any conflict of interest and address all concerns.

[TinCow]

You guys kill me.

I have decided to go with 5i6u2d ... yeah that'll do the trick.

How about pɹnƃıs?

[Jolt]

It should be: "سيجورد"

Which is Sigurd translated from Norwegian to Arabic in Google.

[Thermal]

Got a reply from Jubal saying he is too busy atm, and I should discuss with Thermal Mercury (Ares) and DisgruntledGoat..

Ares, seeing as your the sub don of the TWC, could you spread the words to your people please? If everyone is willing to join then I think its good to go.

5i6u2d sounds nice and strong

ummm, ok but there really are only a handful of dedicated players there, about 12 at most (not counting org members!) transferring over there (when not conflicting with the org) will boost the game there, plus we need more signees for the games taking sign ups now. Idea:

-If you havent already set up an account in the TWC forum

for those on a time issue
-Instead of taking your usual 2/3 - 3/3 games on org, reduce it by 1 so its 2/3 - 1/3, then one less org game will allow you to join a TWC mafia game

for those on can't find the forum issue
-Go to the forum index - games, chat and activities section, enter the coliseum and then the mafia sub-forum, games are sticked and labelled, finished ones are unsticked and at the bottom

for those who hate the twc
-Forget the rest of the forum, this part only has about 12-14 players all in all, and all of the dedicated ones are friendly (DisgruntledGoat, Xavier Dragnesi, Double A, Capt' Blackadder, Rob_The_Celt Me, ATPG, etc.)

for those not wanting to go to the TWC
-It's a logical choice, games have no limit as of yet, the org queues are bulging, so having some TWC games elevates things, the actual ORG-/TWC mafia match itself could be organized in either forum though, I guess

[Pannonian]

for those on a time issue
-Instead of taking your usual 2/3 - 3/3 games on org, reduce it by 1 so its 2/3 - 1/3, then one less org game will allow you to join a TWC mafia game

Just bookmark the Mafia forum, and it'll take no more time than browsing another org forum.

for those on can't find the forum issue
-Go to the forum index - games, chat and activities section, enter the coliseum and then the mafia sub-forum, games are sticked and labelled, finished ones are unsticked and at the bottom.

for those who hate the twc
-Forget the rest of the forum, this part only has about 12-14 players all in all, and all of the dedicated ones are friendly (DisgruntledGoat, Xavier Dragnesi, Double A, Capt' Blackadder, Rob_The_Celt Me, ATPG, etc.)

The Coliseumers are a friendly lot on the whole. The dedicated senior moderator for that part of TWC is scottishranger, whom one or two here may know.

An alternative to contests between the org and TWC might be one game each year which draws on players from both forums. The org already has Capo, which has been hugely successful at the org, and which has produced a TWC winner. If necessary, an orgah might organise something similar, but host it at TWC, as TWC's counterpart. Make it, not a contest between the two forums, but a biannual event, that happens once a year on TWC and the org.

[Beefy187]

Just bookmark the Mafia forum, and it'll take no more time than browsing another org forum.


The Coliseumers are a friendly lot on the whole. The dedicated senior moderator for that part of TWC is scottishranger, whom one or two here may know.

An alternative to contests between the org and TWC might be one game each year which draws on players from both forums. The org already has Capo, which has been hugely successful at the org, and which has produced a TWC winner. If necessary, an orgah might organise something similar, but host it at TWC, as TWC's counterpart. Make it, not a contest between the two forums, but a biannual event, that happens once a year on TWC and the org.

I never thought about the player ratio

I was checking around TWC yesterday. While there were about 150 or so members active on the Org, TWC had at least 3 times more numbers at all time. If we can help them out a bit as we already have long wait for the Que here, I think we will have a Win-Win situation.

I would still like to have the once in a year match purely for Org vs TWC. I think making it more of a competition then usual will boost up the love of both the forums and hopefully increase interest in the number of mafia players.

[Caius]

IIRC, in TWC you had to be something important in the community to post in the mafia forum. I was a peasant there. Here, even if you are a Junior Member you can join the gameroom (contacting Andres or Sigurd) and post (you can't edit your posts if you are a JM, nothing to worry about, those TWC members can be promoted).

[Captain Blackadder]

No you don't at the start it was in the symposiom where you had to be a ctizen the equivelent of senior member here. But after the first game it was moved in the mafia subsection of the games room where anyone can post.

[Caius]

No you don't at the start it was in the symposiom where you had to be a ctizen the equivelent of senior member here. But after the first game it was moved in the mafia subsection of the games room where anyone can post.

Thanks, it has been a 'while' I've been there.

[Pannonian]

IIRC, in TWC you had to be something important in the community to post in the mafia forum. I was a peasant there. Here, even if you are a Junior Member you can join the gameroom (contacting Andres or Sigurd) and post (you can't edit your posts if you are a JM, nothing to worry about, those TWC members can be promoted).

IIRC one needed to be Jubal Barca or a privileged admin to start a thread in the Mafia forum, but that may have been relaxed since I was last there. In any case, if you need to make some arrangements, I can have a word with the admins.

I never thought about the player ratio

I was checking around TWC yesterday. While there were about 150 or so members active on the Org, TWC had at least 3 times more numbers at all time. If we can help them out a bit as we already have long wait for the Que here, I think we will have a Win-Win situation.

I would still like to have the once in a year match purely for Org vs TWC. I think making it more of a competition then usual will boost up the love of both the forums and hopefully increase interest in the number of mafia players.

While TWC has massive visitor numbers, it has a much smaller and less dedicated Mafia fanbase than the org. In the Mafia forum's early days, I spent a bit of time educating the players there in the nuances of Mafia play, which had already developed here by that time. While I haven't been keeping a close eye on their respective forums (most of my time being spent on moderating TWC), AFAICS the org's Mafia play has developed even further since then, showcased by the Capo games. I feel the best results for a TWC game would come if an orgah hosted a game there, with a large import of orgah players, and the TWCers can learn from the sophistication and energy of the orgah Mafia play. I don't think TWC has the fanbase yet to compete with the orgahs in Mafia, but cross-fertilisation of the kind I suggest would help popularise the game in both forums.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Depending on when we actually get this off, I'd be willing to host this (on either forum).

[Caius]

I can't see how conversion from Communist to Capitalist and vice versa is going to work but thats about the only problem I can spot. If you can think of something to cover that, maybe...

If someone could work that, then we are done. I could write the starting write up if needed.

[Beefy187]

Seeing as we have much more players on the Org compared to TWC, I think its better to post pone our once in a year matches.. We got Capo coming up anyway

Right now I think its best to follow Pannonians suggestion by joining up a few TWC games to help them get more players, train their (and our) skills a bit before our matches take place. That should reduce our waiting time for our large games.

I will be doing most of mafia playing on the Org as I find Org skin much more comfortable to lurk in compared to any of the TWC skins I tried.. And I would like to keep upping most posting counts here

Thanks for all the ideas and opinions

[Jolt]

Well, I've just noticed Paradox forums have a bucketload of Mafia players (They call it "Werewolfe" games). They're 20 player game's sign ups get filled in basically 2 hours. Wouldn't it be nice to have a game with them as well? (Especially the Capo game, since they could fill the game up quickly to reach the 120 players.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

ALL TOTALWAR.ORG MAFIA PLAYERS:

If you have a TWC account or if you are willing to get one, I am now accepting signups for a game hosted by me over at total war center, located HERE.


Thanks for your interest.

[Beefy187]

Well, I've just noticed Paradox forums have a bucketload of Mafia players (They call it "Werewolfe" games). They're 20 player game's sign ups get filled in basically 2 hours. Wouldn't it be nice to have a game with them as well? (Especially the Capo game, since they could fill the game up quickly to reach the 120 players.)

Would be hilarious if we get a mafia scums player on here as well. Thats what. Few hundred peoples?

Would be nice eventually but I think I'll concentrate on TWC first.

One day Jolt.. One day we might have a humangous game...

[Askthepizzaguy]

One day Jolt.. One day we might have a humangous game...

I feel it necessary to point out we have a humongous game already in the works, and I am inviting known TWC contacts to it.

Hint:

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Capo

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Tutti

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Capi

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III