Demo Discussion Thread

**ToeAndno** · 02-20-2009, 19:12

Quick reminder:

These are historic battles and so the AI is scripted mostly. This will not give a clear view on how the AI will be in the full game

**Vuk** · 02-20-2009, 19:18

Originally Posted by ToeAndno

Quick reminder:

These are historic battles and so the AI is scripted mostly. This will not give a clear view on how the AI will be in the full game

BS, things like fighting animations, the way that soldiers switch formations, etc is not scripted. I am very disappointed.

**ToeAndno** · 02-20-2009, 19:20

I wasn't talking about animations

**The Fuzz** · 02-20-2009, 19:23

Well, my computer barely meets minimum specs, so...

*cancels download*

Gonna play me some Broken Crescent.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 02-20-2009, 19:34

OK, my impressions.

Loading times were bad, which is a bad way to earn a first impression.

Played the land tutorial - piece of cake, but fairly well made. It might have skimped a bit on the tactics part of the fight - it mentioned nothing of flanking. It did illustrate how effective cover could be though. Nice introduction to land battles.

Then the naval tutorial - also very little meat in the "how to win" department. There should be something that skips the camera controls if you've played the other tutorial (and vice versa).

Then the naval battle - I felt like I wasn't doing a lot to affecte the battle. If my ships were faster (stupid battleship slugfest :/) I could've crossed the T's of the two french navies right off the bat. Lost 2 ships of 6, sunk or forced to surrender all 7 French ships. Graphics look great. I'd prefer frigates. ~:P

Then finally the land battle. I figured I'd do what I was supposed to and flank the Americans using the other ford to the left. Marched out, no problems started taking fire from American skirmishers, but my light infantry put them away. (Sidenote, there's a "skirmish" button for them but it didn't seem to make them spread out or do anything). Then ran into the main force of infantry (I think the AI shifted them over after it saw I moved to the other ford, which may or may not be scripted). Put my line up against theirs while I worked their flank with my grenadiers and light infantry, eventually forced them back.

Some time during this point the enemy arty took out all my horse artillery (which seem useless) and my general (guess I shouldn't have left him in the open). My cavalry was also pretty beat up.

With my British and Hessian line infantry shot ragged but the Americans essentially done, I sent my cav and light infantry against the remaining American dragoons and arty. Mopping up took some time but was just annoying.

didn't like:
>hand to hand animations seem weak. When a line of infantry crashes into another, it doesn't seem to do much - I would imagine the defender would lose many at the onset, when stuck by a whole bunch of bayonets. The defender doesn't. :/
>the light infantry of both sides can deploy anti-cav stakes. That's all fine and good, but it will apparently kill cavalry that walks through it, even if they're fully aware of it. Lost most of a hussars unit this way (though only realized a while after when I zoomed in on the stakes for chuckles. :/)
> useless tissue-paper horse arty

did like
> AI doesn't seem awful, though it's hard to tell in scripted fights.
> It's cool lining up infantry to fire at each other, though expensive really quickly.
> small crackling skirmishes between a few units

**Sheogorath** · 02-20-2009, 19:43

And now the server issues begin.

I got to %30 before my download stopped. Now it says it's 'updating' and went down to %0

My friend over in Scotland reported a similar thing happening at almost exactly the same time.

ITS AS IF A MILLION FANBOYS SUDDENLY CRIED OUT IN PAIN

**peacemaker** · 02-20-2009, 19:48

gah. i warned myself not to visit this thread till ive played the demo since i want to try and get this thing all by myself before seeing your strategies...the demo is SO SLOW!!! or maybe it's just my internet connection...Steam said there was a demo and a big button "play now!" but i just closed that and am hopefully resuming the original demo from this morning. 29% so far after a few hours...hopefully it'll be done by tonight.

**Meneldil** · 02-20-2009, 20:00

First comments make me feel like a sad panda.

Furthermore, I'm not really found of the battle aspect of the TW serie, and this demo apparently only offer a few battle tutorials. Too bad.

**peacemaker** · 02-20-2009, 20:01

GAH 47.8 kb/s download speed...Im dying with excitement but am also worried about what some comments have been said....

**Sir Beane** · 02-20-2009, 19:54

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

And now the server issues begin.

I got to %30 before my download stopped. Now it says it's 'updating' and went down to %0

My friend over in Scotland reported a similar thing happening at almost exactly the same time.

ITS AS IF A MILLION FANBOYS SUDDENLY CRIED OUT IN PAIN

Same problem on my end. How can it be updating if it hasn't even downloaded? Anyone got any ideas on what's going on?

**ToeAndno** · 02-20-2009, 19:55

Pause the download and then resume

**Sheogorath** · 02-20-2009, 20:00

Originally Posted by ToeAndno

Pause the download and then resume

Yup, that starts the download again.

Still doesn't bring the % back, though. Eh, oh well. It's going at a decent rate.

I'm thinking Steam assumed the download finished normally and is counting the rest of the demo as an 'update' to the partial download. I recall this happened to me once before...so it should be alright.

**Vuk** · 02-20-2009, 19:47

I have cancelled my preorder. The game does not run correctly and stinks. That is why I said CA should have spent more time developing it. I could tell by what the reviews said that it was an unfinished product. I realise that I posted the thread pretty late, but I think that they should have made the decision and delayed it a month or two more. It is not close to complete.