Grenadiers... Grenades?

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TB666 13:33 02-21-2009

Originally Posted by Abokasee:
Grenades are accurate for this time period, sure they were big heavy steel balls with string fuse bu they were grenades, but the troops using them had to be very large people (Hence the Potsdam Grenadiers)

Indeed.

So far I haven't actually used them.
Using the simple musket fire and cavalry charge to the flank is a too much of a effective method for me to bother bring up the grenadiers close enough to throw their grenades.
I suppose they would be very useful during seiges however.

Polemists 13:51 02-21-2009

Yes I guess that is another point of view, you don't have to use the gernades if you don't want to. Of course when you fight against enemies with gernades in mp and sp campaign you may want to.

Sir Beane 20:03 02-21-2009

I just played a battle in which I used Grenadiers. They are extremely fun, and not overpowered at all. A grenade barrage does about as much damage as a decent musket volley, perhaps a little more. They're just a fun addition that adds variety.

Sol Invictus 20:33 02-21-2009

I would prefer that the Grenades had been left out but it is a small issue for me. I will only use them when assaulting buildings or earthworks.

Belgolas 20:47 02-21-2009

I liked them and they were not over powered.

Sheogorath 21:56 02-21-2009

Actually, you know, all things considered, it's really not a big deal.

I bet a few weeks after release there'll be a 'no grenades' mod. It's just a matter of removing the weapon, isn't it? Same deal as pikemen and swords in MTW2, right?

miniwally 22:52 02-21-2009

My grenadiers got all shot u before they threw any grenades they got a couple of shots in though. (I may have been the ones who shot them though :P

Megas Methuselah 23:04 02-21-2009

Originally Posted by Sheogorath:
Actually, you know, all things considered, it's really not a big deal.

I bet a few weeks after release there'll be a 'no grenades' mod. It's just a matter of removing the weapon, isn't it? Same deal as pikemen and swords in MTW2, right?

Although I'm all for grenades, a question that would be posed by anti-grenade players is: what about MP?

IMHO, ETW is probably going to be one of few total war games worth playing on MP. I'm excited.

Ibrahim 22:46 02-22-2009

Historically by the 1770's there weren't supposed to be grenades in widespread use (the grenade was almost out of use by 1750). In fact, grenade use had been declining since c.1715.

that said, I like the game, historical inaccuracies and all. and grenades can be a tactical advantage.

Thermal 22:57 02-22-2009

The grenades did massive damage for me if you threw them at the right angle, not to mention obliterate morale

I finally won my land battle too.

ratbarf 00:11 02-23-2009

Personally I think they will work best as second rank reserves more than anything else. Though a devastating one at that. When I used them I had been charged by a unit of line and a unit of Minutemen against a Hussein company with the Grenadiers supporting from behind. Because the hessiens were not english I didn't really care howmany died so I decided this was a perfect moment to try out the grenades. Low and behold, when the grenades where the thrown they landed in back rank of the first engaged unit and killed a good dozen of them. I didn't lose any to my own blasts. I think that at least two units of Grenadiers throwing grenades from behind the main line will become a standard tactic.

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Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah
The animation. It looks so cool. The Grenadiers hurl a grenades in an upward slope which fall into the enemy ranks. Then a couple seconds later... BOOM!!! It looks so cool!

Originaly Posted by Sheogorath
I think it'd be nicer if there was a chance for a grenade to explode too early, blowing a nice chunk out of your formation. It'd add a nice element of random danger to your grenadiers lives, which would make up for late-game anachronisms with a bit of reality :P

Shudders... does anyone else remember the thunder bombers from Mongol Invasion? If you do you would realise that the above, while indeed hilariously fun, gives me nightmares...

antisocialmunky 01:02 02-23-2009

Yes. I remember them. Its worse if you can't kill grenaders from standoff but at this point of history, you can.

Megas Methuselah 01:11 02-23-2009

I found out they have a limited amount of grenades. I wasn't counting, though.

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