Friendly Fire Bug?

[ArtillerySmoke]

I pray you are correct.

I do too but again, I would find it really hard to believe considering how obvious it would be every single time you had a battle. If it was in the retail, it would be a case of CA saying "Ok, this is our biggest release ever, but we're going to just ignore the fact that the enemy kills itself, and patch it later".

I just can't fathom that.

[BeeSting]

If you already have the game, would you be so kind as to let us know if the friendly fire issue still persists?

[Greyblades]

Who are you talking to Beesting?

[BeeSting]

Anyone who already has the full version

[BeeSting]

So I guess they fixed it, no?

[pevergreen]

All bullets are individual. If you order a unit to fire, and a friendly one is in the way, it will get hit. As for if it happens while fire at will is on, my guess is yes. They can see the unit, its in range, they fire.

[BeeSting]

It's the AI I'm worried about since it shoots itself to pieces, at least in the demo.

[TB666]

Well I haven't seen the AI do that, neither in the demo or in the full game so far.

[pevergreen]

Well I haven't seen the AI do that, neither in the demo or in the full game so far.

QFT.

[Fisherking]

I ran into it in the demo for the first time today.(for BeeSting)

Prior to yesterday I had not been able to do the land battle other than twice the first day.

I had my artillery units together and no enemy in range. I was busy elsewhere and when I looked one of them was routing off the board at half strength.

It could only be that its partner unit fired on it!

I will see if it happens when I get my game…but hopefully it is fixed by then.

[caravel]

It does seem somewhat bugged. Fire at will should not allow units to fire into friendly units. That should only happen if the player gives a specific target that overrides the "safety"


CBR

Precisely. Friendly fire is one thing but there is no way a friendly unit should shoot at a nearby and visible friendly unit. Most friendly fire during the period came from artillery anyway.

It's a bug and a horrible one at that.

[Strategy]

I had my artillery units together and no enemy in range. I was busy elsewhere and when I looked one of them was routing off the board at half strength.

It could only be that its partner unit fired on it!

Presumably some enemy unit came within range of your artillery (however briefly). The lesson is to turn fire at will off at all times when your arty are not active and keep constant watch over them.

Won't help the AI, of course.

[Fisherking]

Presumably some enemy unit came within range of your artillery (however briefly). The lesson is to turn fire at will off at all times when your arty are not active and keep constant watch over them.

Won't help the AI, of course.

Turning off the fire at will is the only option.

However the unit fired on was nearer the map edge and could not have been in the line of fire of the other unit.

It had to be deliberately targeted by the other artillery unit.




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[Strategy]

First impression from the full game: this is going to be an issue.

Constant vigilance is required, if your units are not to shoot each other in the back. This results in lots of manual switching off and on of the fire at will button (setting them to attack a unit is not very effective, as they then often start maneuvering or pursue the enemy after routing them).

And, as in the demo, the AI will deploy cavalry units to defend its artillery. Which it will then, all too readily, kill itself with its own friendly fire.

[Major Robert Dump]

You'd think they would've/could've fixed this by now!

nevermind

[Arasaka]

If you overlap your units then be prepared for friendly-fire casualties.

You really need to micromanage your units. If you select a few units and right-click on an enemy, they will bunch up and start shooting each other. You have to keep them in formation, or redeploy.

The same happens if you have untis in a line formation. the ones in the rear will shoot the unit in front of them, not the enemy unit beyond the friendly one in front. More micomanaging the "Fire at Will" button. I always forget to turn it back on again, especially since I'm trying to manage 20 units involved in 2 or 3 different skirmishes at the same time.

[ArtillerySmoke]

I am getting the game today (Yesterday turned into a nightmare day for me...had no time to pick the game up) but from what I'm reading here, this looks like another really minor bug being blown out of proportion.

I'll certainly see tonight though...

[Fisherking]

I can live with keeping an eye on units in the line of fire. That is not so bad.

I just hope the friendly artillery is not targeting it’s sister batteries…that would be a bigie.