View Poll Results: How will you balance advancing technology and keeping happiness?

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  • I need techs, I will build schools regardless of consequences.

    16 28.07%
  • I'm going to fortify my capital like crazy, bring it on rebels.

    9 15.79%
  • I want to keep a monarchy as long as possible, so low tech.

    1 1.75%
  • Focus on schools and technolgy.

    12 21.05%
  • Focus on happiness.

    2 3.51%
  • Focus on keeping one system of govt.

    5 8.77%
  • GAh....

    2 3.51%
  • Something else

    4 7.02%
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    I think early game, Monarchy is the way to go, but as the game progresses, it will slowly all turn into Constitutional Monarchies and Republics.

    Out of the starting nations, I believe they are the following:
    France - Monarchy
    Sweden - Monarchy
    Ottoman Empire - Monarchy
    Great Britain - Constitutional Monarchy
    United Provinces - Republic
    Russia - Monarchy
    Spain - Monarchy
    Prussia - Monarchy
    Poland-Lithuania - Republic
    Austria - Monarchy
    Marathas - Monarchy

    I am not entirely sure if some of those monarchies are constitutional, I am just working from my base knowledge.
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    I am gonna go the route of the benevolent monarchy, until someone gets out of line. Then, off with their heads! I will brutally surpress any republics that pop up as well! God save the King!

    I'll try to advance my tech in a way that doesn't create a clamor for reforms, more focused on military tech and the like but after a while it may be inevitable that I have to brutally put down some rebels.

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    I believe the problem was, with the Sweden player, is because they focused all the research on the Military, is why people got upset, instead of them researching on how to feed people better, comfortable beds, etc. So I believe advances in social areas will keep a monarchy in power, not advances in them will bring about the opposite, as after all, the population would be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    I believe the problem was, with the Sweden player, is because they focused all the research on the Military, is why people got upset, instead of them researching on how to feed people better, comfortable beds, etc. So I believe advances in social areas will keep a monarchy in power, not advances in them will bring about the opposite, as after all, the population would be happy.
    The idea is that advances in social and cultural technology result in a better educated population. And a better educated population start to wonder about why they don't have rights, and votes, and why the nobles have all the money when the citizens do all the work. And then they get angry and its pithfork uprising time.


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    Says a lot about now. We are giving up our rights to the government in order for them to stomp all over them in the interests of safety and security.

    I was guessing the case was, that the advances in certain areas keep people happy, as lets face it, many people if given a far easier life of luxury wouldn't be thinking "Last week, I will working in a pig sty, now I am in a big fancy clean factory earning 4 times as much, this country is so awesome."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    Says a lot about now. We are giving up our rights to the government in order for them to stomp all over them in the interests of safety and security.

    I was guessing the case was, that the advances in certain areas keep people happy, as lets face it, many people if given a far easier life of luxury wouldn't be thinking "Last week, I will working in a pig sty, now I am in a big fancy clean factory earning 4 times as much, this country is so awesome."
    I think that researching food supplies and things will keep people happy in the short term, and will certainly please the nobility. In the long term though education breeds Republics.


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    Imma be a monarch, but I will still build a lot of schools and research techs. Any educated peasant dogs who seek to rebel will be crushed like beetles beneath my heel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    The idea is that advances in social and cultural technology result in a better educated population. And a better educated population start to wonder about why they don't have rights, and votes, and why the nobles have all the money when the citizens do all the work. And then they get angry and its pithfork uprising time.
    Indeed that is my understanding as well. I like polls of this kind, so long as we dont go overboard with them! We cant play the game, but we can talk about our strategies and what we wanna do with all the new features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    I think early game, Monarchy is the way to go, but as the game progresses, it will slowly all turn into Constitutional Monarchies and Republics.

    Out of the starting nations, I believe they are the following:
    France - Monarchy
    Sweden - Monarchy
    Ottoman Empire - Monarchy
    Great Britain - Constitutional Monarchy
    United Provinces - Republic
    Russia - Monarchy
    Spain - Monarchy
    Prussia - Monarchy
    Poland-Lithuania - Republic
    Austria - Monarchy
    Marathas - Monarchy

    I am not entirely sure if some of those monarchies are constitutional, I am just working from my base knowledge.
    Poland-Lithuania is actually a Constitutional Monarchy at the time the game starts, all the otehrs are correct .

    You can check on a recent IGN screenshot which shows the diplomacy screen for the playable factions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    Poland-Lithuania is actually a Constitutional Monarchy at the time the game starts, all the otehrs are correct .

    You can check on a recent IGN screenshot which shows the diplomacy screen for the playable factions.
    I have to admit, Poland-Lithuania was sort both. It had an elected monarchy, akin to a President but from a Royal Group.

    However, in 1791 they reformed politics to have a hereditary monarchy with a constitution. (So a Constitutional Monarchy)/
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    Default Re: Technology or Peace

    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    I think early game, Monarchy is the way to go, but as the game progresses, it will slowly all turn into Constitutional Monarchies and Republics.

    Out of the starting nations, I believe they are the following:
    France - Monarchy
    Sweden - Monarchy
    Ottoman Empire - Monarchy
    Great Britain - Constitutional Monarchy
    United Provinces - Republic
    Russia - Monarchy
    Spain - Monarchy
    Prussia - Monarchy
    Poland-Lithuania - Republic
    Austria - Monarchy
    Marathas - Monarchy

    I am not entirely sure if some of those monarchies are constitutional, I am just working from my base knowledge.
    Can the Ottoman Empire turn to a republic?! Would be rather surprising

    *edit* of course, others nations like prussia and austria didn't turn to a republic too, but at least it could have happened, look at Germany in 1848/49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Can the Ottoman Empire turn to a republic?! Would be rather surprising

    *edit* of course, others nations like prussia and austria didn't turn to a republic too, but at least it could have happened, look at Germany in 1848/49
    Apparently every nation can change government type, both ways. So the Ottoman Empire can become a Republic (and they sorta did when they became Turkey). Or the USA can become a Monarchy.


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    I thought it was impossible to turn into a Monarchy. Only a Constitutional Monarchy or a Republic.
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