View Poll Results: How will you balance advancing technology and keeping happiness?

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  • I need techs, I will build schools regardless of consequences.

    16 28.07%
  • I'm going to fortify my capital like crazy, bring it on rebels.

    9 15.79%
  • I want to keep a monarchy as long as possible, so low tech.

    1 1.75%
  • Focus on schools and technolgy.

    12 21.05%
  • Focus on happiness.

    2 3.51%
  • Focus on keeping one system of govt.

    5 8.77%
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    2 3.51%
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    As Prussia, I would tech up as fast as possible along the military line and damn the rest. Ill build an Imperial Guard that could crush entire nations on its own, let the peasant rabble dare attempt to topple the Kaiser if they wish.

    I wonder if there will be an option to build a throne out of their skulls...
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    It will be monarchy for me, with high tech. Crush all who dare challenge the crown.
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    I will max out my tech machine because honestly why would I fight with inferior troops. Then if those pesky below human peasents(I am joking here) try to gain power I will crush them. I wonder what happens why you side with the loyalists and you loose. Do you just join the rebels?


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    Not 100% sure but I believe if you lose, you are forced to change government, and probably deal with some financial and unrest reprecussions. Along with the fact that since it wasn't your guys you have no control over who becomes your ministers, leaders, etc.

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    The Kingdom of Prussia will unite under the Kaiser of course. Crushing any rebels who dare rebel against their betters!

    Tech + Brutal reprcussions for uprisings for me :P

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    According to JL:

    You will be limited in research speed without the philosophy techs.

    Also, if you lose a revolution, that would be the end of the game.
    Last edited by quadalpha; 02-25-2009 at 08:11.

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    Bummer......

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    You lose a revolution? But you can pick which side you want to be on. So if they revolt you pick Monarchy, then you brutalize them. Game carries on.

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    I think I'll roleplay the government portion of the game pretty much... If Empire doesn't turn out to be a LOT harder than M2. Since my first campaign will be with Sweden, I will go monarchy all the way I think. Being a CIV player (one of the few games that's still somewhat of a challenge), I can't stand to be behind in the tech tree either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    For my first serious campaign, I will be switzerland and I will tech up and only have one army.
    Reminds me of a joke some years ago from "Eurovision Song Contest": "Here are the results from the austrian jury:" "Brazil ten points." - "AH, sorry you can't give Brazil any points, it doesn't belong to Europe ..." (I know you will add it for sure ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    I am gonna go the route of the benevolent monarchy, until someone gets out of line. Then, off with their heads! I will brutally surpress any republics that pop up as well! God save the King!

    I'll try to advance my tech in a way that doesn't create a clamor for reforms, more focused on military tech and the like but after a while it may be inevitable that I have to brutally put down some rebels.
    Playing first campaign as Spain, that is the only possible way for his most catholic majesty. He (or she) is the last defender of true faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    I think early game, Monarchy is the way to go, but as the game progresses, it will slowly all turn into Constitutional Monarchies and Republics.

    Out of the starting nations, I believe they are the following:
    France - Monarchy
    Sweden - Monarchy
    Ottoman Empire - Monarchy
    Great Britain - Constitutional Monarchy
    United Provinces - Republic
    Russia - Monarchy
    Spain - Monarchy
    Prussia - Monarchy
    Poland-Lithuania - Republic
    Austria - Monarchy
    Marathas - Monarchy

    I am not entirely sure if some of those monarchies are constitutional, I am just working from my base knowledge.
    Poland-Lithuania is actually a Constitutional Monarchy at the time the game starts, all the otehrs are correct .

    You can check on a recent IGN screenshot which shows the diplomacy screen for the playable factions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by quadalpha View Post
    According to JL:

    You will be limited in research speed without the philosophy techs.

    Also, if you lose a revolution, that would be the end of the game.
    Are you sure it would be the end of the game? I'm pretty sure I read that if you lose the revolution, you'd just have to continue playing with a different system of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxorsist View Post
    Are you sure it would be the end of the game? I'm pretty sure I read that if you lose the revolution, you'd just have to continue playing with a different system of government.
    I've heard that as well, if you back the losing side you just have to put up with a government you don't want.


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    focus on keeping britain a constitutional monarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    Poland-Lithuania is actually a Constitutional Monarchy at the time the game starts, all the otehrs are correct .

    You can check on a recent IGN screenshot which shows the diplomacy screen for the playable factions.
    I have to admit, Poland-Lithuania was sort both. It had an elected monarchy, akin to a President but from a Royal Group.

    However, in 1791 they reformed politics to have a hereditary monarchy with a constitution. (So a Constitutional Monarchy)/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    I think early game, Monarchy is the way to go, but as the game progresses, it will slowly all turn into Constitutional Monarchies and Republics.

    Out of the starting nations, I believe they are the following:
    France - Monarchy
    Sweden - Monarchy
    Ottoman Empire - Monarchy
    Great Britain - Constitutional Monarchy
    United Provinces - Republic
    Russia - Monarchy
    Spain - Monarchy
    Prussia - Monarchy
    Poland-Lithuania - Republic
    Austria - Monarchy
    Marathas - Monarchy

    I am not entirely sure if some of those monarchies are constitutional, I am just working from my base knowledge.
    Can the Ottoman Empire turn to a republic?! Would be rather surprising

    *edit* of course, others nations like prussia and austria didn't turn to a republic too, but at least it could have happened, look at Germany in 1848/49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Can the Ottoman Empire turn to a republic?! Would be rather surprising

    *edit* of course, others nations like prussia and austria didn't turn to a republic too, but at least it could have happened, look at Germany in 1848/49
    Apparently every nation can change government type, both ways. So the Ottoman Empire can become a Republic (and they sorta did when they became Turkey). Or the USA can become a Monarchy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxorsist View Post
    Are you sure it would be the end of the game? I'm pretty sure I read that if you lose the revolution, you'd just have to continue playing with a different system of government.
    Well, take a look at this thread on TWC and see how you interpret question 16: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=225857

    I took that to mean the game is over (similar to if you were conquered).

    Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen what happens when you get conquered in any TW game.

    Edit: it's the long first post in the thread.
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    I thought it was impossible to turn into a Monarchy. Only a Constitutional Monarchy or a Republic.
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    Does this uprising get fought out on the battlefield? or is it more or less a "roll the dice how is your luck?" type scenario? If it's something fought out on the battlefield, that should be an interesting experience if it's more or less against my own troops, as I generally like to play with heavily modified units.
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    Though, I just got a wavelength. If you actually turned into a republic, isn't it impossible to go back to a Monarchy in the games mechanics? As if the population is unhappy, they just elect a new leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiberiusBeskar View Post
    I thought it was impossible to turn into a Monarchy. Only a Constitutional Monarchy or a Republic.
    I'm pretty sure CA said that the Upper class can revolt and try and put a King on the throne. Upper class revolts get better quality troops but there are less of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow_Wolf33 View Post
    Does this uprising get fought out on the battlefield? or is it more or less a "roll the dice how is your luck?" type scenario? If it's something fought out on the battlefield, that should be an interesting experience if it's more or less against my own troops, as I generally like to play with heavily modified units.
    It's definitely fought on the battlefield, a rebel stack or two will spawn near your capital and attempt to take it.


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    Uh, yeah. You either support the rebellion or the loyalists, and you will fight the army of the one you didn't join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    It's definitely fought on the battlefield, a rebel stack or two will spawn near your capital and attempt to take it.
    I wouldn't call it a "rebel" stack, as that sounds disastrously like the old Rebel faction of previous TW games. Rather, let's dub them the stack(s) of heroic revolutionaries!

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    Stacks of foul bumbling pesants trying to overthrow their betters more like! Back in your places!

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    What's to stop us from joining the rebels we don't support and just run away or otherwise act really incompetent, IF we're that... um... creative? I mean if there really is no other penalty, you might even lose less of "your" troops that way :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Guy View Post
    What's to stop us from joining the rebels we don't support and just run away or otherwise act really incompetent, IF we're that... um... creative? I mean if there really is no other penalty, you might even lose less of "your" troops that way :p
    So you are saying we should just charge right across the loyalists mine field sir? Are you sure thats a good idea? You are? Well... ok I guess.

    Boom!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Beane View Post
    So you are saying we should just charge right across the loyalists mine field sir? Are you sure thats a good idea? You are? Well... ok I guess.

    Boom!
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