how to crusade...

[wukie2001]

been enjoying MTW since i got it, learning how to/playing but theres somethings i havent figured out. how do u make/start a crusade. what u need to be able to make 1? slowly but surely im learning more and more about the game which makes it more interesting (hope i dont get bored of it). learned how to trade/transport, which was easy just didnt know how till i got some help , so know i ask about crusade, how to make a crusade, requirement or such...

thx....

ah and before i forget, is there a manual/link to military/buildings tree...haveing trouble figuring out what goes were, i figured it was gonna b like AOE that has an icon u can click for units/building tree, is there such thing in MTW?


thx again....

[I of the Storm]

To make a crusade you must build a chapter house, which you can build after you've built a church, available at keep level. Then you can 'recruit' a crusade marker which will appear on the campaign map in the province you built it in. Now zoom out and have some spare troops at hand. Take up the marker and drop it in the target province (highlighted red I think). Some dialogue will appear asking you to pay money to the pope. Then the marker will have become an army with a cross sign. You can now stuff troops into it (no limit) and move it towards the target province. It can normally pass other christian territory peacefully and gather troops on the way (while losing some other troops to desertion). Simply keep on going.

[wukie2001]

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To make a crusade you must build a chapter house, which you can build after you've built a church, available at keep level

. Then you can 'recruit' a crusade marker which will appear on the campaign map in the province you built it in. Now zoom out and have some spare troops at hand. Take up the marker and drop it in the target province (highlighted red I think). Some dialogue will appear asking you to pay money to the pope. Then the marker will have become an army with a cross sign. You can now stuff troops into it (no limit) and move it towards the target province. It can normally pass other christian territory peacefully and gather troops on the way (while losing some other troops to desertion). Simply keep on going.

i didnt find that chapter house at keep lvl, gonna upgrade to the next castle and hope its there, hope i dont have to upgrade anything else other then that too, if not new game lol....

[I of the Storm]

In vanilla MTW there are some factions that cannot crusade IIRC. I think Poland and Denmark are excluded. Maybe Sicily or Aragon too but I'm not sure. Might be that you picked one of them.

Edit: for the Chapter House, you need the Keep (second level fortification) and the Church. That should unlock CH.

[wukie2001]

In vanilla MTW there are some factions that cannot crusade IIRC. I think Poland and Denmark are excluded. Maybe Sicily or Aragon too but I'm not sure. Might be that you picked one of them.

Edit: for the Chapter House, you need the Keep (second level fortification) and the Church. That should unlock CH.

yeah i liked the danes(denmark) oh well, so what does 'vanilla' mean anyways...

[caravel]

Vanilla is the standard, unmodified game.

The Danes, Poles and Hungarians cannot crusade.

[Axalon]

ah and before i forget, is there a manual/link to military/buildings tree...haveing trouble figuring out what goes were, i figured it was gonna b like AOE that has an icon u can click for units/building tree, is there such thing in MTW?

thx again....

Well in short, no such luck wukie2001... It really is a great feature in that game and one that MTW have sadly missed out on. In the original retail edition there was a paper-chart included with all that stuff. As for newer editions MTW like Gold- and Era-editions I suspect that it is only available in PDF-format somewhere...

Perhaps someone else could fill in the blanks on that?



Oh, welcome to the Org and the MTW-section by the way...

[wukie2001]

To make a crusade you must build a chapter house, which you can build after you've built a church, available at keep level. Then you can 'recruit' a crusade marker which will appear on the campaign map in the province you built it in. Now zoom out and have some spare troops at hand. Take up the marker and drop it in the target province (highlighted red I think). Some dialogue will appear asking you to pay money to the pope. Then the marker will have become an army with a cross sign. You can now stuff troops into it (no limit) and move it towards the target province. It can normally pass other christian territory peacefully and gather troops on the way (while losing some other troops to desertion). Simply keep on going.

Well in short, no such luck wukie2001... It really is a great feature in that game and one that MTW have sadly missed out on. In the original retail edition there was a paper-chart included with all that stuff. As for newer editions MTW like Gold- and Era-editions I suspect that it is only available in PDF-format somewhere...

Perhaps someone else could fill in the blanks on that?



Oh, welcome to the Org and the MTW-section by the way...

thx for the info guys, guess ill take a few more gmes playing to learn them by heart huh...seems like the games has been pretty fun/intertaining so far, just been wanting to b able to know how to use every feature there is...

thx again, hopefully i wont b back here again, if not then c ya soon....

[cambovenzi]

No flamebaiting please ~ Asai Nagamasa 22/02/09

[oz_wwjd]

I frequently used to have my allies crusades crossing my territory as the Byzantines. After one of them looted my treasury,and made off with money that I could off put to better use myself, I now deny all crusades to cross my borders,not that many dispute the issue,given that my border forces are usually quite sizable...

[Fagar]

Sounds fair and reasonable Asai.
As there never was a port in Portugal, nor ships off the coast then the second half of your post would seem to make more sense.

[bamff]

I frequently used to have my allies crusades crossing my territory as the Byzantines. After one of them looted my treasury,and made off with money that I could off put to better use myself, I now deny all crusades to cross my borders,not that many dispute the issue,given that my border forces are usually quite sizable...

This raises a query for me, having also suffered from passing Crusaders helping themselves to my treasury, wine cellar, and dry goods store after being granted passage.

It does not appear to matter if the crusading faction is allied to mine or not.

Are there triggers for such actions, or are they just random events like earthquakes?

Also - I do not recall seeing any of my crusades doing this, but has anyone else witnessed one of their own crusades liberating a few florins en route?

[caravel]

Catholic crusades tend to loot Orthodox provinces. Constantinople is commonly looted if it lets a crusade through, mainly because it tends to be on a main route from Europe to the holy land, which is quite annoying if you're playing as the Byzantine of course. I don't think alliances have a bearing on this. As far as i know the looting happens regardless.

[Fagar]

I am almost positive alliances do not have a bearing.
As the Byzantines I have been looted almost inceasantly by my allied factions as they pass through.
To the extent that now I just say no and turn the crusades away rather than losing so many good men and florins to a crusade that does not reflect my beliefs.
Plenty of time for remaking alliances later