Enslaving People/Groups

[ArtillerySmoke]

Can we do this in Empire?

Let's say I , long story short, start conquering lands and defeating an enemy or coalition (if they're in the game) can I opt to put certain people or groups into slavery, working in my factories etc?

That's just a very loose example...I'm looking for anything along these lines.

Thanks

[Mailman653]

I'm pretty sure the ignored the issue of slavery all together. I think from a modding stand point, they could be modded in as a tradable item, but beyond that I think it might be difficult to implent such as you described, IMO.

[ArtillerySmoke]

That's disappointing...

You would think it would be in there...as well as slave trading like you said.

Whatever, this game better blow the doors off the industry or I'm going to go crazy

[A Very Super Market]

For (In my view, ridiculous) reasons, CA would get their socks sued off if they did that.

[Vuk]

Darnnit! I was hoping to enslave the Dutch!
Work Tosa!




EDIT: I can still exterminate populace though, so look out Org!

[Haxorsist]

I thought I remember reading somewhere a long time a go that you got prestige if you abolished slavery, and that was the only way they were handling the issue.

[Wausser]

Darnnit! I was hoping to enslave the Dutch!
Work Tosa!

Why would you do that=



Just try me

*reloads his m60*

[ArtillerySmoke]

For (In my view, ridiculous) reasons, CA would get their socks sued off if they did that.

It is ridiculous.

It's ok to kill tens of thousands of them, tax your people to death, destroy historic sites, pillage the countryside, etc etc etc...but you can't enslave someone?

Totally ridiculous.

[Haxorsist]

I doubt they would get sued, but it might offend people and CA doesn't want the bad press.

[Rufus]

I can see them not wanting to make slavery a huge part of the game, but to whitewash it completely would be absurd. It was a huge part of 18th century economic history for many of the countries represented in the game. You should gain in prestige by abolishing slavery but also take an economic hit (and perhaps a hit in internal stability, particularly in colonies dependent on slavery) at least in the short term.

[Khaled]

it was a tough call of efficiency over humanity in real life, and it should be in the game. Also (as history has shown), when slaves are freed, it is better for the economy in the long run (in a capatalist society), because they can then start investing, making business ventures, etc. So aboloshing slavery could have a short term hard felt negative effect on your economy at first

[X6_861]

I've poked around a few of the files in the demo after the unpacker came out and found this --

--[[ Ancillary_African_Servant_02_Trigger ]]--

events.BuildingCompleted[#events.BuildingCompleted+1] =
function (context)
if conditions.CharacterType("minister", context) and conditions.CharacterMinisterialPosition("governor_america", context) and conditions.CharacterBuildingConstructed("large_cotton_plantation", context) then
if conditions.DateInRange(1700, 1900, context) then
effect.ancillary("Ancillary_African_Servant", 8, context)
end
return true
end
return false
end

There's also a "Mistress_Circassian" ancillary for a character culture type of "middle-east". So I'd guess its not completely absent, just glossed over a bunch.

[ratbarf]

I think there was a huge thread about this a year or so ago when Empires was originally launched. You should go looking for it as it hass many of the points already discussed here.

[Beskar]

Privateer to United States
Trade screen

Privateer offers
Population 2000 (568 Slaves)

Pivateer Demands
Raw Materials for Europe

[ArtillerySmoke]

Privateer to United States
Trade screen

Privateer offers
Population 2000 (568 Slaves)

Pivateer Demands
Raw Materials for Europe

What exactly is that?

As for the rest of the thread: Others have made every point I can already. It's historically accurate to include slavery in the game, considering what an economic backbone it was to many nations during this time period.

We'll see how it plays out. I'm sure it won't be what some of us want, but something tells me it won't be left out entirely either. It has to be represented in SOME form. It's exclusion is almost as bad as if they had left out artillery.