Demo units

[Thermal]

Wait doesn't that mean the upkeep for Line infantry is only slightly less than that for a First rate ship crewed by over a thousand men? CA said fleets would be expensive!

Come on now, you can't charge upkeep if your in the middle of an ocean can you!? supplies would cost alot so i expect recruitment cost to be very high (which it is) but im content with the upkeep, and more think its the infantry that need to be cheaper, not the boats that need to be more expensive.

[Sir Beane]

Come on now, you can't charge upkeep if your in the middle of an ocean can you!? supplies would cost alot so i expect recruitment cost to be very high (which it is) but im content with the upkeep, and more think its the infantry that need to be cheaper, not the boats that need to be more expensive.

I don't mind how its done so lang as boats are more expensive. If i remember correctly Britian could only aFford a certain amount of First raters and nearly bankrupted themselves trying to build more.

H.M.S Victory cost £50,000,000 to build. That is a fantastic amount of money and CA had better represent it in game.

[CBR]

H.M.S Victory cost £50,000,000 to build. That is a fantastic amount of money and CA had better represent it in game.

Her actual construction cost was around £63,000 and that was rather high because of several delays.

A full sized British infantry regiment of 1,000 men and based purely on daily pay for privates in late 18th century (not worrying about NCO and officer pay) would be more than £12,000 a year.

If we think of a unit in ETW as a regiment then the costs are not that much off. Scaling issues and hardware requirements means we should not worry about 1:1 scale between land and naval combat.


CBR

[Sir Beane]

Her actual construction cost was around £63,000 and that was rather high because of several delays.

A full sized British infantry regiment of 1,000 men and based purely on daily pay for privates in late 18th century (not worrying about NCO and officer pay) would be more than £12,000 a year.

If we think of a unit in ETW as a regiment then the costs are not that much off. Scaling issues and hardware requirements means we should not worry about 1:1 scale between land and naval combat.


CBR

I was scaling up the 63,000 pounds figure in terms of todays money . Back then a pound was worth much much more than it is today.

Looking at Victory gives you an appreciation of how big these ships must have been though. They used an entire forest to build her.

[Eusebius86]

Agreed, ships are ridiculously cheap. The initial cost is way to cheap, and the upkeep is way to cheap. Think about all that timber, cannon, food, crew, officers, etc. The first 6 frigates the USA purchased cost them $688,888.82 (NOT current USA dollars). The yearly upkeep was somewhere around $150-$200k, if I remember correctly for the crews and ships... That's just under $10 million dollars for the ships, and $2 million dollars for upkeep, if you take inflation into account.

[Miracle]

Calmarac, I made some easier-to-read tables:

Infantry



Cavalry



Artillery



Ships



Some things to keep in mind:

• These stats may not be final
• It does not take into account special abilities like stakes and grenades as well as environmental factors like forest bonus, etc.
• Unit costs are probably balanced with regard to a faction's relative strengths and weaknesses

[Eusebius86]

I hope these aren't final.

- "Second Rate Ship: 320 upkeep"
- "Highland Infantry: 350 Upkeep"

What the heck?!?!

[Calmarac]

Calmarac, I made some easier-to-read tables:

Thanks! That's much better

I'm sure some of these stats are off and will be different in the full game. We'll see soon.

e.g. 24 Lb guns range 100 - 6 Lb guns range 400

As for ship costs, it puts it into perpective for me to think that a single run-of-the-mill 74 gunner had as many cannon as a dozen land artillery batteries, enough for an army or two. Fleets should be very pricey indeed.