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    Since you're a slinger yourself, it's clear that you're not impartial If I was a naked swordfighter, I'm sure I would like to see them in the game being more powerful too
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwissBarbar View Post
    Since you're a slinger yourself, it's clear that you're not impartial If I was a naked swordfighter, I'm sure I would like to see them in the game being more powerful too
    I use the Atl Atl also, that does not mean that I am partial torward it. It just means that I understand it better. I also use bows and arrows, so why am I not prejiduced toward them? Heck, I can throw knives, hachets, do various styles of sword and knife fighting, and have experimented with making spears before. I must be prejiduced toward it all. :P No, it is just that ancient and medieval warfare interests me (esp primitive warfare). When I see things like 240 javelin being lobbed into a group of 240 infantry without shields and 10 or so falling dead I die inside. Do you know how deep you can bury those things into a tree? Do you know how little protection mail offered against them? That is what I mean about units being more mortal. Their biggest defense was their shield, and should be in the game.

    EDIT: Just thought of some something, I am learning the Yang style Taijichuan fan form next semester, you will not see me opting for including fan warriors. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I use the Atl Atl also, that does not mean that I am partial torward it. It just means that I understand it better. I also use bows and arrows, so why am I not prejiduced toward them? Heck, I can throw knives, hachets, do various styles of sword and knife fighting, and have experimented with making spears before. I must be prejiduced toward it all. :P No, it is just that ancient and medieval warfare interests me (esp primitive warfare). When I see things like 240 javelin being lobbed into a group of 240 infantry without shields and 10 or so falling dead I die inside. Do you know how deep you can bury those things into a tree? Do you know how little protection mail offered against them? That is what I mean about units being more mortal. Their biggest defense was their shield, and should be in the game.

    EDIT: Just thought of some something, I am learning the Yang style Taijichuan fan form next semester, you will not see me opting for including fan warriors. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I use the Atl Atl also, . I also use bows and arrows,, I can throw knives, hachets, do various styles of sword and knife fighting, and have experimented with making spears before.
    I am learning the Yang style Taijichuan fan form next semester,
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    Nice sarcasm ;-)

    But let me reassure you.

    With 16 years of fighting with swords and spears I know from experience that people who constantly try new weapons and styles will not master any. It is yet another sign of immaturity, lack of patience... the same as is displayed by someone who has little experience with the game jumps in here and starts spouting opinions based on that and some superficial knowledge of the subject matter, tinted by some obvious bias already... wait... I just realised, it is one and the same.

    Now Vuk, you may of course think us biased and evilly against you, and to some extent we are, but we would not have been had you done as I outlined in my above post. People here generally have some sense if presented with valid arguments based on methodical research. The only exception being of course all the Hellene Lovers (not of course us Rome Lovers, who are always perfectly objective and sensible, LOL).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macilrille View Post
    Nice sarcasm ;-)

    But let me reassure you.

    With 16 years of fighting with swords and spears I know from experience that people who constantly try new weapons and styles will not master any. It is yet another sign of immaturity, lack of patience... the same as is displayed by someone who has little experience with the game jumps in here and starts spouting opinions based on that and some superficial knowledge of the subject matter, tinted by some obvious bias already... wait... I just realised, it is one and the same.

    Now Vuk, you may of course think us biased and evilly against you, and to some extent we are, but we would not have been had you done as I outlined in my above post. People here generally have some sense if presented with valid arguments based on methodical research. The only exception being of course all the Hellene Lovers (not of course us Rome Lovers, who are always perfectly objective and sensible, LOL).
    I am not impatient, and I do not move from one to another. I started with Taekwondo which I practice to this day. I never tried to master the atl atl, or the bow and arrow, or the sling, I just wanted to see if I could make and use one, and I could. I still practice most of the sword forms I have learned, still practice my knife forms, and am learning spear, staff, and fan next semester. I never claimed to be a master of any of these, simply that I had some working knowledge.
    As a history major I of course realise the importance of sources, and regret creating the need for them so ill prepared. I did not intend for this turn into such a debate. I cannot help that it is now when I decided to try EB, and I am in Hungary without a single familiar book. :P The reason I stopped arguing further is because the need for sources did develop and I am currently completely ill/unequipped. I do though, resent your accusations about my "immaturity, lack of patience". Just because I curious enough to dabble into more areas than I can work to master does not mean that I do not have patience. It simply means that I am open minded.
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    er... before everything, may you please play EB for about 100 game years on Medium Campaign difficulty AND Medium Battle difficulty? I believe that it was your choice of game difficulty settings, which is not entirely your fault (hardly anybody reads the faqs), that has led to this regretable (and somewhat humourous to some) misunderstanding between you and the others.

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    Frankly I do not really care whether or not you resent my perception of you as based on your statements here.

    Or rather, I care about as much as you probably do about whether or not the EB team might resent being called ignorant. If you dish out something, do not complain when you get the same back. It is not as if you came and presented a well-thought out argument supported by research and politely presented.

    Go and read my first post again, digest it and adhere to it, till then...

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    ...Cavalry is ridiculous. As the Rome vs Greece tournement has shown. The infantry can all but win the fight until the cavalry comes back and messes up their day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    ...Cavalry is ridiculous. As the Rome vs Greece tournement has shown. The infantry can all but win the fight until the cavalry comes back and messes up their day.
    Cannae... ?
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