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    Canada also has a Gendarmerie. Le Gendarmerie royale du Canada, or Royal Canadian Mounted Police. It has the status of a Dragoon regiment in the army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Canada also has a Gendarmerie. Le Gendarmerie royale du Canada, or Royal Canadian Mounted Police. It has the status of a Dragoon regiment in the army.
    Do they have a garrison bonus?


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    Only in the province they were raised.
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    Remember the Oklahoma State Trooper who pulled over an ambulance with a patient because they didn't yield fast enough and he has a rage problem? And he then proceeded to choke the EMT after finding out about the patient? And then he only got a paid vacation for a week?

    Well badge number 606, Daniel Martin, is again in the news after hitting a man with a baton during a traffic stop because:
    James said Douglas was arrested and the officers had to use force because they felt he was getting hostile.

    "He had his teeth clenched as if he was going to do something," the attorney quoted his client as saying.
    Clenched teeth! Goodness! That criminal is lucky he escaped with only a beating. And did I mention the person beaten and arrested wasn't the driver or even in the car that had allegedly run a stop sign. He was trying to walk past the car the police had pulled over into a driveway to the house, and charged with obstructing an officer.

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    HOLDENVILLE — A state trooper suspended in July following a scuffle with a paramedic is again the focus of an internal investigation by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.

    Trooper Daniel Martin was put on paid administrative leave after an arrest Saturday in which a Holdenville man claimed he was assaulted by troopers for no apparent reason.

    Martin was suspended without pay for five days in July as a result of a widely publicized scuffle he had with a Creek Nation paramedic at Paden on May 24.

    Parts of the scuffle were captured on video taken at the scene and from the dashboard camera in the trooper's car.

    In addition to being suspended, Martin was ordered to undergo anger-management assessment.

    In Saturday's incident, Martin was the backup officer for Trooper Tommy Allen, who was also placed on paid administrative leave over the Holdenville arrest. Holdenville is in Hughes County, about 90 miles south of Tulsa.

    Capt. Chris West, spokesman for the OHP, said Monday a complaint was filed Sunday in connection with the Holdenville arrest a day earlier.

    The two troopers were placed on administrative leave based on the complaint and the fact Martin was involved in another high-profile case, West said.

    West, noting that
    the case is being investigated by the OHP's internal affairs unit, would not comment on the details, except to say that an individual was arrested for obstructing an officer at a traffic stop of another man for a stop-sign violation.

    The arrested man has been identified as Kristopher Douglas, 28, who was taken by the troopers to the Hughes County Jail.

    Witness account
    Jerry Ford, who lives in the house where the arrest occurred, said Douglas was walking to his house to help him with drywall when the troopers jumped Douglas, put him in a chokehold and hit him with a baton. He said the incident occurred in his front yard.

    Ford said the motorist who allegedly ran the stop sign, Luke Carson, also was coming to his house to help him with drywall.

    According to Ford, Carson pulled into his driveway about 7 p.m., and behind him were the two troopers, Allen followed by Martin.

    Ford said Douglas, who was not involved in the traffic stop, was trying to get to Ford's house, but the officers kept insisting that he stand by the street.

    Suddenly, Allen grabbed Douglas' arm and put him in a chokehold and Martin pulled out a retractable baton and struck him in the back, Ford said.

    "I came out and asked what was going on," Ford said. "Martin comes up in a fast walk, screaming he's going to put me in jail."

    "All I asked was that they take it to the street, that they were upsetting my two kids," Ford said.

    Ford said he bailed Douglas out of jail about 90 minutes after the arrest. They tried to file a complaint with OHP that night, but were told they would have to wait until Monday, he said.

    Ford said they contacted an Oklahoma City television station on Sunday to report the matter.

    Ford said neither he nor Douglas knew the names of the troopers, but they remembered badge No. 606 and reported that to the TV reporter, who recognized it as being Martin's.

    Once that story aired Sunday night, Douglas said he received a call "inside of 10 minutes" from the OHP, telling them that he could file the complaint, which he did verbally Sunday night. Ford said a written complaint will also be filed.

    Ford said he was surprised to learn that Martin was the same trooper involved in the scuffle with the paramedic.

    "Anyone in the United States of America would get run off his job," Ford said. "He (Martin) gets a paid vacation. I don't want to run down the police, but we sure need someone to monitor the police, but no one is above the Highway Patrol.

    "It's like now, nothing would have been done had it not been for the media coverage," Ford said.

    The Tulsa World has filed a formal request under the Oklahoma Open Records Act for release of the troopers' incident reports, a copy of the complaint and release of dashboard videotapes from the troopers' cars. None was released Monday.

    Trooper's version
    Gary James, an Oklahoma City attorney who represents Martin, said his client will be exonerated once the tapes from Martin's dashboard camera are released.

    James said he talked with Martin, who told him that Douglas tried to walk through the traffic stop several times and wouldn't heed their commands to stand by the street.

    James said Douglas was arrested and the officers had to use force because they felt he was getting hostile.

    "He had his teeth clenched as if he was going to do something," the attorney quoted his client as saying.

    James said Douglas could be heard in the squad car saying he was sorry and should have heeded the troopers' command.

    Records show that in addition to several traffic tickets, Douglas has 2004 felony drug conviction out of Oklahoma County, for which he received a nearly five-year suspended sentence.

    Lawyer speaks
    Richard O'Carroll, a Tulsa attorney representing Douglas, backed Ford's version of the events. O'Carroll is also the attorney for Maurice White Jr., the paramedic involved in the scuffle with Martin in May.

    That incident was sparked when Martin claimed the ambulance crew, which was taking a woman to the hospital, gave him an obscene finger gesture as their vehicles passed.

    O'Carroll has already filed a federal lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Muskogee against the state for that incident.

    Reacting to the latest case involving Martin, O'Carroll said of the Highway Patrol: "This was predictable and outrageous. They've protected, indulged and endorsed this dangerous law-enforcement officer."


    That's right; the guy was trying to walk past the cops. But they don't want him walking there, and say he's acting nervous or something, so they beat him and arrest him. Gee, I wonder why he was nervous. Maybe because the cop is a frickin' psychopath.


    Oh, he's another stunner (with video):

    This cop was stationed in a school. These cops are generally around to keep the peace, act as a liaison, simple stuff. And this is a special education school, where kids with learning disabilities are supposed to get help.

    So we have one fifteen year old boy who's at the school and doesn't have his shirt tucked in. This cop sees it and starts yelling and swearing at him. The kid starts tucking his shirt in as he continues walking down the hallway.

    That's not good enough for the cop, who shoves the kid into the wall, punches him, throws him, face first, on the floor, and continues punching him. In the end the kid has his face bruised and his nose broken.

    BY A COP SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING HIM.
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    DOLTON, Ill. (CBS) ―

    [Click to zoom.]
    A 15-year-old student was walking down a hallway at school when he says a police officer grabbed him and threw him to the ground. But that's not all. The teenager says he was beaten and nearly suffocated. He told his story to CBS station WBBM-TV in Chicago.

    Security cameras captured the beating of a 15-year-old Special Education student by a police officer. Marshawn Pitts says the officer started shouting and swearing at him because his shirt wasn't tucked in.

    "I was tucking my shirt in," Pitts said.

    But it's what happened next that had Marshawn Pitts worried for his life. Pitts says the officer came at him suddenly.

    "It was just like boom," Pitts said.

    He says he was blindsided by the officer, thrown into lockers and struck repeatedly.

    In the video, you can see that he gets slammed to the ground and his face smashed into the floor. His nose was broken.

    Pitts says he was bleeding.

    "All this on the outside of my mouth was busted," he said.

    He calls this treatment violent and unnecessary, especially considering he was attending the Academy for Learning High School in Dolton for students like him with Special Education needs.

    When he was younger, he suffered a brain injury and now has a learning disability.

    The school for special needs was supposed to help him and understand his situation.

    "Yeah, but instead I got beaten on by police," Pitts said.

    Ed Manzke is Pitts' attorney.

    "The officer was in his face because he didn't have his shirt tucked in," Manzke said. "That's the officer put in that school to protect these kids, and instead of doing that, this officer is literally assaulting this kid."

    The officer in question was a Dolton police officer, and the hold he used on Pitts can be a dangerous one.

    Zena Naiditch of Equip for Equality, a legal advocacy group that fights for the rights of people with disabilities, looked at the video and said the type of physical restraint used by the officer has killed students.

    "It's called a face-down take-down, and kids and adults often die because they can't breathe," Naiditch said.

    A Government Accounting Office report released in May, just one day before the officer's use of the hold on Pitts, found face-down take-downs led to at least 20 deaths nationwide.

    Currently eight states prohibit the use of this hold. Illinois is not one of them.

    "So we don't actually know how common these incidents are, and that's outrageous," Naiditch said.

    Pitts says he was terrified and begged the officer to stop.

    "I couldn't breathe,'" Pitts said. "I was like, 'let me up.'"

    Naiditch says it shouldn't have happened.

    "He's getting a beating, and he's getting a beating on an issue that has nothing to do with danger, it has to do with dress code," Naiditch said.

    No one from the Academy of Learning in Dolton would talk to WBBM-TV about the alleged abuse.

    The Dolton Police Department and the Mayor of Dolton did not return phone calls.

    Marshawn Pitts's attorney Ed Manzke says he has transferred to another school and is planning to file a lawsuit.

    The State Board of Education says no one from the school reported the use of forceful restraint to them.

    And in that article, the PD didn't return any phone calls. I wonder why...

    Perhaps it's because the cop in question, Christopher Lloyd, shot his ex-wife's husband to death in front of the husband's home back in February 2008. A police investigation found it was in self defense. An autopsy found the husband had been shot 24 times. As in, there weren't 24 bullets shot, but 24 bullets entered the victim, who, if we trust the Chicago police because we are raging morons, attacked an armed cop outside his own home.

    And so Lloyd faced the harsh penalty of being fired before finding work in Dolton as a police officer.

    BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

    The reason the PD didn't return those phone calls may have been because....
    The cop was in jail for raping a woman.

    Yes, that's right. He held a pillow over her head and threatened her with a knife.

    It appears the rape charge may finally be the one that lands him in prison. I guess it's hard to claim raping a woman was necessary because she was 'resisting arrest'. But I'm sure top union officials are working on that now, seeing as how the police defending murder and assault before.

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    I'm not buying the "he was shot this many times" argument so much anymore, after having witnessed police training, Officers are trained to keep firing until there aren't any bullets left to fire. However, having that said, the rest of the case is suspicious at best, heinous at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I'm not buying the "he was shot this many times" argument so much anymore, after having witnessed police training, Officers are trained to keep firing until there aren't any bullets left to fire. However, having that said, the rest of the case is suspicious at best, heinous at worst.
    What kind of weapon did he use then? I don't know of any pistol with a 24+ round magazine. I don't really see the use of firing 9 or 12 rounds into someone and then pumping another one or two magazines into their dead body, what kind of police training is that?


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    Scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I'm not buying the "he was shot this many times" argument so much anymore, after having witnessed police training, Officers are trained to keep firing until there aren't any bullets left to fire. However, having that said, the rest of the case is suspicious at best, heinous at worst.
    What Husar said. 24 bullets into the guy likely means at least two magazines, as they are few 24 round plus magazines, and even fewer used by police. Two magazines means the cop shot the guy multiple times, then reloaded and continued shooting.

    And those are just the bullets that hit the guy; it's likely some missed, unless the cop was very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    What Husar said. 24 bullets into the guy likely means at least two magazines, as they are few 24 round plus magazines, and even fewer used by police. Two magazines means the cop shot the guy multiple times, then reloaded and continued shooting.

    And those are just the bullets that hit the guy; it's likely some missed, unless the cop was very close.

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    I don't know, unless you had a good restructuring of the crime scene, it's hard to tell. This man's character is certainly lacking, and the numerous violations he's been caught with doesn't give him the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned, however, as a general rule the x factor of shots being fired, doesn't necessarily equate to willful malice. The fact that he shot his ex wife's husband to death, if it can be made certain he wasn't in danger for his life, does however. And then of course the rape charge really doesn't swing things in his favor.

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