Police abuses

**Greyblades** · 01-30-2011, 03:21

Lethal force used for a raid on only one druggy? What?! This sounds like the sort of thing south park would make to make fun of smaller situations.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 01-30-2011, 04:48

Greyblades: that's standard practice in the US. The war on drug users is very literal in the US. These raids occur thousands of times per state per year. Some counties use the SWAT team to serve every single warrant. They break down doors, throw flashbang grenades, come in full body armor and machine guns in the middle of the night, and generally shoot any dogs they see on sight. There are no public records available on how many raids occurred, or what warrants they were serving. People are dying so cops can play dress up and pretend they're soldiers. Except the US army doesn't act so trigger happy.

Here's a limited map of innocent people killed by such raids:

CR

**Greyblades** · 01-30-2011, 15:52

But shouldn't they at least give them tazers or tear gas instead of freaking machine guns until there is confirmation of deadly weapons?

**ajaxfetish** · 01-31-2011, 00:32

Originally Posted by Greyblades

But shouldn't they at least give them tazers or tear gas instead of freaking machine guns until there is confirmation of deadly weapons?

I'm sure there are plenty of options for sanity. Some police departments just seem determined not to take them. Ultimately, greater police accountability (instead of policies or laws against filming police, etc.) and an end to the 'war on drugs' would probably provide the most improvement.

Ajax

**PershsNhpios** · 01-31-2011, 09:39

That is absolutely disgusting.

I am definitely advocant of the right to bear and use arms as a civilian, and I do, but we in Australia thought it was a hell of a lot more relaxed over there than that evidence shows.

It seems the floodgates for your S.W.A.T. recruitment were opened wide and not only has that rapidly decreased quality in personnel but also created a monster of corruption...

Good luck, and take a page out of Egypt's book.

**Husar** · 01-31-2011, 11:28

You know what our police did when I reported the guy who robbed me? One officer stood next to him and talked to him.
That's it, no tazing, no violently throwing him to the ground, yelling loud and handcuffing him or any of that macho stuff.
And I'm still proud of our police, they solve our criminal problems without the macho attitude.

They put a lot of emphasis on talking skills here, I took a small test to determine whether a police career would suit me and a lot of the questions were about whether I would think I could defuse a certain situation verbally. Not by yelling at people with mah authoritay, then tazing them and handcuffing them while pressing their face onto the floor.

America's police desperately needs some reforms, this kind of behaviour is unacceptable, I think it mostly doesn't happen here because there is a somewhat different police culture here and the courts and the law don't back the police up all the time when they do nasty things. As ajax said, the law against videotaping police and probably a few others need to be revoked and the courts should side with the law, not the police.
The guy with the bat wasn't even close to the officer and stopped when he saw who was coming in. Still seems stupid to take a bat when someone yells "police!" though.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 03-13-2011, 08:36

Note: Carrying a pocket knife in Seattle is punishable by on-the-spot execution:

And even though the SPD ruled the shooting unjustified, the officer will not face any legal charges.

CR