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    I LOL'd at "Professional Courtesy."
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    They're cracking down on crime in NYC;

    Don't be caught without ID in a public park after it's been closed, because you might face 36 hours in police custody.

    And don't dare commit the heinous crime of getting shot by a stray bullet, for which one woman spent five days in a police station cell.

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    Is this the right place for that Judge Adams story?

    And do you Texans have any idea what this is about?

    Sometimes, a man is so far ahead of his time that it is hard for his contemporaries to understand him. Judge Adams is such a man. As a judge, he is light years ahead of his time.

    His genius may not be understood for many years. It may not be apparent to us mere mortals. His work will be the subject of scholarly legal articles and study for many years.

    Some of his pearls of judicial wisdom follow:

    1) Family law often concerns itself with the amorphous concept of "best interests of the child." Some have complained that this term is too undefined to provide reasonable guidance in judicial proceedings. Well, Judge William Adams has come to the rescue. We still do not know all the contours of the best interests of the child but we do know thanks to Judge William Adams the mental health of the primary child care provider is not relevant to "best interests." Thus, it doesn't matter with respect to the best interests of the child, if the child care provider is homicidal, psychotic, suicidal, and hullucinatory, among other things. In other words, a homicidal, hullucinatory, psychotic psychotic is just as good as someone who is not.

    2) Naturally, from principle no. 1, it therefor follows that any discovery into the mental health history of a primary health care provider is irrelevant and should not be allowed.

    3) Children should never be believed. This includes a child who everybody describes as bright and honest. If a child says he was abused, he should be ignored. If a parent doesn't ignore the child, the parent should be sanctioned (and her lawyer).

    4) Similarly, if child says he has been abused, the alleged abuser should be asked whether he abused the child. If the alleged abuser denies the abuse, the issue should be dropped.

    5) If the child says various people were present during the abuse, then those people have no relevance as witnesses. If the child's parents attempts to question them, she should be sanctioned (and her lawyer also).

    6) If the child says he was abused at a restaurant, but people who abused the child deny having been at the restaurant at the relevant time, it is irrelevant that two waiters at the restaurant say they were there.

    7) All children are fantasizers all the time; thus, anyone, who believes a child is frivolous and must be sanctioned.

    8) If there is no videotape of something, it should not be presented in Court. No videotape, then it didn't happen.

    9) Written communication don't count; only phone calls.

    10) If a witness he doesn't have a clue what the charts he present mean or how they were created, then this means the charts are conclusive proof.

    These are just a few "Judge William Adams" pearls of judicial wisdom. His wisdom is too vast to be learned in just one lesson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    Is this the right place for that Judge Adams story?

    And do you Texans have any idea what this is about?
    -It sure is.

    -I'm guessing he's a good ole boy judge.

    LA County, where they beat on the mentally disabled;

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Records show a rookie Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy quit after only three weeks on the job after a supervisor forced him to beat up a mentally ill jail inmate.

    The Los Angeles Times reported Thursday that 23-year-old Joshua Sathers, who graduated at the top of his class, was so disturbed after the March incident and subsequent cover-up at the Twin Towers jail that he resigned and moved to Colorado.

    The incident was investigated by the sheriff’s department, which determined that no misconduct had occurred although an uncooperative inmate had been subdued.

    The head of the Miami Fraternal Order of Police defends a man who was driving 122 mph and got a ticket for reckless driving - because he was a cop, of course. Do I even need to mention the last bit?

    First came the controversial traffic stop, cop vs. cop on Florida's Turnpike, recorded on dash-cam video that went viral showing a state trooper pursuing, cuffing and detaining a hyper-speeding Miami police officer at gunpoint.

    Now comes the aftermath: Some Miami police officers are not only defending their compatriot, they are threatening and insulting the Florida Highway Patrol trooper who had the nerve to write him a ticket for reckless driving.

    If professional courtesy is a two-way street, it looks like the encounter between Miami Officer Fausto Lopez and Trooper Donna Jane Watts has dropped a massive roadblock between factions in their two agencies.

    The grudge match has been playing out in hundreds of tit-for-tat postings on a law enforcement blog.

    In this corner, Miami: "I would have loved for Watts to try and pull me over in my marked unit and draw her gun on me! She would have a very rude awakening,'' an anonymous writer posted Monday. "I would wait til I got to my district, called all my boys, and then you Miss Watts will be very SORRY!!'

    On the other side, FHP: "The dumb ass shouldn't be doing 122 miles per hour that is RECKLESS,'' posted another writer. "What if it's your family that idiot rear-ends and kills, will you still want FHP to be so lenient?''

    The growing tension was heightened Sunday when Sgt. Javier Ortiz, vice president of Miami's Fraternal Order of Police, which represents the city's 1,000-plus officers, attacked Watts and defended Lopez in a letter to union members. He accused Watts of just wanting to ticket a Miami cop.
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    He went on to tell officers: "Please do not get to her level and begin taking action against Troopers because of the poor decisions of one. … Do not be running her information on DAVID, FCIC/NCIC, etc.,'' referring to law enforcement databases that contain criminal records, addresses and dates of birth.
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    Though numerous threats and personal attacks have been directed at Watts, and purported members of both agencies are threatening to retaliate or not to back each other up in emergencies, there is no easy way to tell if the writers are actually law officers.

    "She is an unfortunate-looking woman, her behavior probably has something to do with it,'' a pro-Miami writer said about Watts.

    "Miami cops should be used to riding handcuffed in the back seat,'' wrote an FHP supporter. "So many get arrested for rape, murder, corruption, etc.''
    Note the Miami cop is preemptively warning his fellow cops not to retaliate against the state trooper who pulled over the Miami cop shattering the speed limit. Because they have to be warned against such corrupt behavior, because otherwise they'd do it.

    And note the Miami cops defending their right to flaunt the law and insisting on being treated as above the law.

    It's not just a few bad apples.

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    Executive, judicial have counter balance powers what is the counter balance for cops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    Executive, judicial have counter balance powers what is the counter balance for cops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    Executive, judicial have counter balance powers what is the counter balance for cops?
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    So a protester is standing well back from the police line and peacefully filming. Best practices indicate it's time to shoot him.


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