Police abuses

[HoreTore]

Talk about different cultures. In Sweden 31 cops have been killed on duty, since 1900. Half of them was killed before 1930.

Even if I count 31 that's been killed in duty with hard counting (assult, gunshot vehicular assult), that gives an average on about 70 killed/year in the recent years.

Adding the obviously needed population factor, it's still about 10 times more dangerous to be a cop in the US.

Well look at the bright side, Ironside; you're not lagging far behind when it comes to murdered politicians

[Vladimir]

Talk about different cultures. In Sweden 31 cops have been killed on duty, since 1900. Half of them was killed before 1930.

Even if I count 31 that's been killed in duty with hard counting (assult, gunshot vehicular assult), that gives an average on about 70 killed/year in the recent years.

Adding the obviously needed population factor, it's still about 10 times more dangerous to be a cop in the US.

Well, I noticed a lot of them died in traffic, maybe they stopped a car, stood at the side of the road and got hit by a car or something, the ones where a cop was run over on purpose seem to be marked as Vehicular Assault.

This is something people forget. The biggest cultural difference is the culture of ignorance vs. education. Instead of researching the cause of death, people jump to conclusions.

[Ironside]

Well look at the bright side, Ironside; you're not lagging far behind when it comes to murdered politicians

True, it's sad when your politicians permanently needs bodyguards. Do you have any idea on what minister posts that's bodyguard protected in Norway?

Well, I noticed a lot of them died in traffic, maybe they stopped a car, stood at the side of the road and got hit by a car or something, the ones where a cop was run over on purpose seem to be marked as Vehicular Assault.

That would probably be under the struck by vehicle category. Traffic death are probably due to rapid and aggressive driving when responding to a crime and following CR:s theme, general disrespect of the traffic laws as they won't be punished for it (except when getting themself killed).

This is something people forget. The biggest cultural difference is the culture of ignorance vs. education. Instead of researching the cause of death, people jump to conclusions.

Are you demonstrating by example?

Did you read the link? Did you notice that I excluded all factors that possibly could be counted otherwise based on the given data?

Anyway, that is certainly part of the explaination on why the US police are so fond of the SWAT teams.

[Lemur]

Who would you rather tase, a groundhog or a non-compliant 72-year-old great-grandma?

[Husar]

That would probably be under the struck by vehicle category. Traffic death are probably due to rapid and aggressive driving when responding to a crime and following CR:s theme, general disrespect of the traffic laws as they won't be punished for it (except when getting themself killed).

Well, that seems weird, when you see/hear a car with a siren coming here you have to make way, drive to the side of the road and let them pass that is, is that not the case in the US? There's also one saying "Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit".

[Mooks]

In Sweden does the goverment have the "war on drugs" that they have over here in the States? Id imagine cops mostly die from trying to tango with drug-related people (gangsters, cartels, dealers etc)

[Ironside]

Well, that seems weird, when you see/hear a car with a siren coming here you have to make way, drive to the side of the road and let them pass that is, is that not the case in the US? There's also one saying "Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit".

And there Vladimir might actually have a point, forgot to compare it with normal traffic death statistics. The US police are simply a large enough group to have those numbers.

In Sweden does the goverment have the "war on drugs" that they have over here in the States? Id imagine cops mostly die from trying to tango with drug-related people (gangsters, cartels, dealers etc)

Nothing that would validate the "war on drugs" title. Drug dealers are certainly arrested, but in general that "war" part is missing. Even organised crime usually don't respond by gunfire during arrest.

[HoreTore]

True, it's sad when your politicians permanently needs bodyguards. Do you have any idea on what minister posts that's bodyguard protected in Norway?

Our PM walks alone from his home to the parliament.

[Zim]

Yes,
in many states you also have to pull into the left lane and/or slow down significantly if a police officer has pulled someone over on the side of the road. Doesn't stop people from plowing down officers or running into their cars (even when that car is off the road, with lights flashing. ).

Traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things a U.S. law enforcement officer does.

One of my instructors at the academy had responded to a major crash a couple year back. His squad car was completely off the road (as were both cars involved in the crash). Someone still managed to rear end him when he had sat in the passenger seat to write some notes. Broke several bones and he couldn't work for a couple months...

Well, that seems weird, when you see/hear a car with a siren coming here you have to make way, drive to the side of the road and let them pass that is, is that not the case in the US? There's also one saying "Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit".

[Lemur]

Traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things a U.S. law enforcement officer does.

Hmm, my information may be out-of-date, but I was told that "domestic disputes" were the #1 killer of policemen.

[Zim]

Part of the reason I said "one of", since I wasn't quite sure whether to take what I was taught as absolutely true... The general consensus when I went to the academy last year was that traffic stops are worse. At least, they result in more deaths, especially as officers get complacent since nothing happens in the vast majority of stops. I rather suspect that the danger of injury per domestic violence call is much higher than per traffic stop, but the latter cause more deaths by being so much more frequent.

I wouldn't be surprised to find that what they teach changes every year, like whether eggs were healthy or not back when I was in school.

Hmm, my information may be out-of-date, but I was told that "domestic disputes" were the #1 killer of policemen.

[lars573]

This should top up Rabbits rage metre for the day.

Grand father and pregnant woman tasered at baptism party.

[KukriKhan]

This should top up Rabbits rage metre for the day.

Grand father and pregnant woman tasered at baptism party.

Heh

[The Stranger]

omg... and why the hell is that other officer not stopping his collegue?? that is just insane...

[Husar]

Who sends three or four officers to tell some people to be quiet anyway?

[Megas Methuselah]

This should top up Rabbits rage metre for the day.

Grand father and pregnant woman tasered at baptism party.

Unbelievable. They should make a new documentry entitled "Hispanic in America" or something.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Eh, they could just copy the 'Black in America' or just the 'Non-related to police in America'.

Anyways, in Boise, cops sodomize a man with a taser.

In St Louis, cops pepper spray and arrest a woman who took a picture of them at a protest against government health care.

In Coeur D'Alene (pronounced core-da-lane) cops taser a guy who rode past a traffic stop seven times.

In the same city, other cops grope a woman stopped for DUI.

Florida cops get in traffic accident, attempt to frame the person they crashed into because they weren't driving safely. Luckily it's caught on tape or the woman would be in jail.

In New Orleans, a cop is indicted for lying under oath during the trial of an alleged drug dealer.

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[lars573]

Why does it seem that every cop in the US is using the Vic Mackey guide to police work?

[Zim]

Nah. I've only seen a little of the Shield, but it seemed every once in a while Vic would verge on the edge of being an antihero rather than a pure villain. To be a real American cop one's soul must be as black as night, 24/7.

See, first we're screened by an E-Meter. It looks like the one Scientologists use, but the E stands for evil and unlike their's it actually works. Once the most evil and thuggish applicants have been chosen an extensive background check is done. Evidence of having kicked puppies as a child will put you in the front of the line.

Then it's off to a lengthy academy, 4 months in my area (and about to get longer). Here you learn the true tricks of the trade, such as framing people and using excessive force. Of course there's also a "kicking puppies" class, for those who didn't get in on that early in their lives, or need pointers on techniques.

Afterward you don your badge (which shocks you whenever you commit a good deed) and jackboots, then go out into the world to oppress people, like this gentleman here who appears to be writing a ticket. I can only assume the person didn't deserve it. Maybe he was in a hurry today, or everyone was going that fast. Perhaps the officer should be chasing real criminals. One can only know that the man with the badge is in the wrong, since they are irredeemably evil.

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It shouldn't need to be said but just in case all of the above is a joke. Except the excuses to get out of a ticket, which are real and pretty common, and not even close to the worst people use.

Why does it seem that every cop in the US is using the Vic Mackey guide to police work?

[Banquo's Ghost]

Of course, in place of the over-enthusiastic police of the United States, you could have the less keen coppers of the United Kingdom.

The Chief Constable of Cambridgeshire has apologised after officers took four hours to respond to a call from two nurses being threatened by intruders.

Amy Overend and a friend made an emergency call to police after four men came into their building threatening them with violence and rape.

[Fragony]

Pure Kafka http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ba_1250143000

[Husar]

Seriously, what a non-story.
If he had come to the funeral and taken them away in handcuffs then you might have a story, but if the police has to let every crack dealer go when he says he wants to go to a funeral that's pretty stupid. It's not the officer's fault that those people were not wearing their seatbelts, maybe next time they really want to go somewhere they should make sure they're not breaking any laws in the process and in terms of seatbelts it's not that hard, is it?

[Vladimir]

Why does it seem that every cop in the US is using the Vic Mackey guide to police work?

Because the squeaky wheel gets air time.

One of Rabbit's outrages is over a guy who was tazered after he beat a cop in the face with a flashlight.

Of course, in place of the over-enthusiastic police of the United States, you could have the less keen coppers of the United Kingdom.

The Chief Constable of Cambridgeshire has apologised after officers took four hours to respond to a call from two nurses being threatened by intruders.

Amy Overend and a friend made an emergency call to police after four men came into their building threatening them with violence and rape.

Yes, but UK cops are more polite.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Yes, but UK cops are more polite.

How can one tell? It's impossible to find one.

[lars573]

Because the squeaky wheel gets air time.

One of Rabbit's outrages is over a guy who was tazered after he beat a cop in the face with a flashlight.

I'm not talking about that one. I'm talking about the ones who do something illegal and then try to cover it up by framing the victim.

[Husar]

Russian cops are the real deal.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Cop pulls over woman for talking on her cell phone. Then it turns out he was wrong, as she as just had her hand up against her cheek. And she prove she doesn't have a cell phone. So then the cop says she was speeding - going 50 in a 45 mph zone. Now, it is extremely rare for anyone to be pulled over, much less given a ticket for, going 5 mph over the limit. And the cop didn't get her speed on radar, of course, he claims (lies) that he paced her car before pulling her over. The truth is her was pissed she proved her innocence an wanted to get her for something.

So she gets out of her minivan and wants to see the evidence, starting to walk towards his cruiser. The cop takes great offense at this, ordering her back into her car. She doesn't comply at first, so her tries to arrest her because she was blacking traffic or something by standing outside her car. She gets back into her car, and the cop pulls her out into the road, tasers her repeatedly though she had done nothing to threaten him him, and throws her down into the middle of the road.

And then arrests her, takes her to the hospital for injuries and charges her with driving with a cellphone, speeding, disorderly conduct, and resisting arrest. All charges were dropped after prosecutors saw the video.



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[Zim]

Not as effective as a badge used as a shock collar, but I suppose investigating police officers when they do something heroic is one way to condition them into thuggery.


Officer saves life, faces investigations for his troubles.

[lars573]

An anonymous person=fire fighter

[Crazed Rabbit]

A cop lies his pants off - no, wait, he's unlikely to be punished so he's not lying anything off. Anyways, a cop lies strenuously about a man he pulled over who was chewing breath mints. The cop thought the mints the driver was chewing was crack. The cop says his field test kit returned a positive, which is possible, as those things are terribly unreliable. So he arrested the guy and had him put into jail.

But the cop also said that he say the guy buying crack and that the driver admitted he bought drugs. this jives with the fact that three months after the arrest the substance came back from the lab as certified non-crack.

But during that time the driver couldn't make bail and had to stay in jail, losing his apartment, his job, and his car, which the police impounded and sold. I wonder if the cop feels bad about that. Since he lied so much, I'm guessing that sort of thing doesn't phase him.

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KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- A man is suing the Kissimmee Police Department for an arrest over mints. When officers pulled Donald May over for an expired tag, they thought the mints he was chewing were crack and arrested him.

May told Eyewitness News they wouldn't let him out of jail for three months until tests proved the so-called drugs were candy.

May said he was just minding his business, driving home from work, when a Kissimmee police officer pulled him over near 192.

"I don't know how it occurred," he said.

May was pulled over for an expired tag on his car. When the officer walked up to him, he noticed something white in May's mouth. May said it was breath mints, but the officer thought it was crack cocaine.

"He took them out of my mouth and put them in a baggy and locked me up [for] possession of cocaine and tampering with evidence," May explained.

The officer claimed he field-tested the evidence and it tested positive for drugs. The officer said he saw May buying drugs while he was stopped at an intersection. He also stated in his report May waived his Miranda rights and voluntarily admitted to buying drugs.

May said that never happened.

"My client never admitted he purchased crack cocaine. Why would he say that?" attorney Adam Sudbury said.

May was thrown in jail and was unable to bond out for three months. He didn't get out until he received a letter from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the State Attorney's Office that test results showed no drugs were found.

"While I was sitting in jail I lost my apartment. I lost everything," he said.

While May was behind bars, the Kissimmee Police Department towed his car and auctioned it off. He lost his job and was evicted. Now May is suing the city for false arrest and false imprisonment. He wants to be compensated for the loss of his car and job.

May's attorney and the city of Kissimmee discussed a possible settlement last year, but failed to reach an agreement.

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