Results 1 to 30 of 666

Thread: Police abuses

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizashi View Post
    I'm not buying the "he was shot this many times" argument so much anymore, after having witnessed police training, Officers are trained to keep firing until there aren't any bullets left to fire. However, having that said, the rest of the case is suspicious at best, heinous at worst.
    What Husar said. 24 bullets into the guy likely means at least two magazines, as they are few 24 round plus magazines, and even fewer used by police. Two magazines means the cop shot the guy multiple times, then reloaded and continued shooting.

    And those are just the bullets that hit the guy; it's likely some missed, unless the cop was very close.

    CR
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  2. #2
    Oni Member Samurai Waki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Portland, Ore.
    Posts
    3,925
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    What Husar said. 24 bullets into the guy likely means at least two magazines, as they are few 24 round plus magazines, and even fewer used by police. Two magazines means the cop shot the guy multiple times, then reloaded and continued shooting.

    And those are just the bullets that hit the guy; it's likely some missed, unless the cop was very close.

    CR
    I don't know, unless you had a good restructuring of the crime scene, it's hard to tell. This man's character is certainly lacking, and the numerous violations he's been caught with doesn't give him the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned, however, as a general rule the x factor of shots being fired, doesn't necessarily equate to willful malice. The fact that he shot his ex wife's husband to death, if it can be made certain he wasn't in danger for his life, does however. And then of course the rape charge really doesn't swing things in his favor.

  3. #3
    smell the glove Senior Member Major Robert Dump's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    OKRAHOMER
    Posts
    7,424

    Default Re: Police abuses

    LOL he shot an unarmed man 24 times in the man's front yard while his children watched. This was not self defense, this was murder.

    The douchebag probably showed up to hassle his ex wife and her new husband came outside and told him to get the hell off his property.

    What's sad is that the cop's dad is defending his son's actions in beating up the kid
    Baby Quit Your Cryin' Put Your Clown Britches On!!!

  4. #4
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Police abuses

    In San Jose, police handcuff and then taser and beat with batons a non resisting 20 year old Vietnamese exchange student.
    The worst part is the sound.

    As you watch the video of San Jose police officers beating and Tasing 20-year-old Phuong Ho, the hardest thing is to hear the college student scream in pain. That and the sickening thud of batons, seen only dimly in the cell phone video but unmistakable to the ear.

    It is the kind of thing you expect from rogue precincts in Los Angeles or New York. In downtown San Jose, it is stunning.
    The thugs with badges got caught on a camera phone, which is why their lies where caught.

    In Denver, cops attack and then arrest a man who said he was going to get a video camera to record them.

    Taka Fushimi said a deputy then said he was going to tow away his son's bike.

    "Then he proceeded to say if they towed it, my son wouldn't ever see his bike again. And I said he was full of ****, ya know ... He told me to go back to the house," said Taka Fushimi.

    On the way back to the house, Fushimi admits he told the deputy the case was one of prejudice. He said the deputy responded back, "Yes, it is."

    Fushimi said he threatened to get his video camera and that's when the officer came after him. He said the officer first jumped on his back. Then threatened to arrest him before he pushed him into the family's glass window.

    Neighbor Terryron Thigpen said she saw the whole thing from her balcony.

    "He just went and jumped on the dad," said Thigpen.

    Thigpen said she yelled for police to stop and was horrified to see them arrest and assault 85-year-old Taka Fushimi Sr.

    Fushimi Sr. said he was just coming out of the house to find out what was going on. He bent down to pick up his son's wallet when officers twisted his arm and pushed him to the concrete.
    Finally, in Boulder Colorado, the local police chief decides he doesn't like the annual naked pumpkin run on Halloween. The problem for him is public nudity is legal, so he looks to see what he can charge these people with and decides on indecent exposure, a class 1 misdemeanor 'to knowingly expose his or her genitals in circumstances "likely to cause affront or alarm."' It also gets the person put on the sex offender list for the rest of their lives. Of course, the only people likely to see the event at 11pm are the many people who come out specifically to stand along the route and watch. But chief isn't letting the law get in the way of what he wants.

    For nearly a decade, naked pumpkin runners did their thing unmolested, stampeding through the frigid dark past crowds of admirers who hooted, hollered and tossed candy. But last year the run attracted more than 150 participants, and Police Chief Mark Beckner fears things are getting out of hand. "It's a free-for-all," he says.

    So he intends to stop it.

    He will station more than 40 officers on the traditional four-block route tonight, with two SWAT teams patrolling nearby. All have orders to arrest gourd-topped streakers as sex offenders.
    ...
    More recently, Boulder has played host to an annual Naked Bike Ride to protest dependence on fossil fuels. And the Boulder Daily Camera, the local newspaper, serves up a steady stream of stories about clothes-free joggers and nudist gardeners.

    Casting about for a law to apply, since nudity per se is not illegal, police hit upon the state's indecent exposure statute, which makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor for anyone to knowingly expose his or her genitals in circumstances "likely to cause affront or alarm."

    Given that the Naked Pumpkin Run starts at 11 p.m., long after young trick-or-treaters have retired, and given that the route is packed with fans who come out specifically to see the event, runners argue that it's absurd to think their prank is causing either affront or alarm.

    Even if the run does catch a few people by surprise, "the joy it brings overall far outweighs the one or two people who could be offended," says Callie Webster, who is 22 and a veteran pumpkinhead.

    Police acknowledge they have not been flooded with pumpkin-run-related complaints, but say that's beside the point. A throng of naked people with jack-o-lanterns on their heads is, by definition, an alarming sight, Chief Beckner says. Therefore, it's illegal.

    Those convicted of indecent exposure rarely get jail time, but they must register as sex offenders, just as rapists do. Which seems a bit excessive to Boulder County District Attorney Stan Garnett.

    "A lot of times," he says with a sigh, "these people are just being idiots."

    Still, Mr. Garnett says he will back up the police, adding, "We will take the cases they give us."
    CR
    Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 11-02-2009 at 20:34. Reason: All letters of a profanity to be asterisked out
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  5. #5
    Member Megas Methuselah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Prairie Grasslands
    Posts
    5,040
    Last edited by Megas Methuselah; 11-23-2009 at 08:58.

  6. #6
    Friend of Lady Luck Member Mooks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    1,290

    Default Re: Police abuses

    My friend's and me were talking the other day, when one of them pointed out something interesting. As he said it "nowadays I feel safer around a person in uniform (soldier) then a cop, that shows how our society is". I completely agree with him, so did everyone else. Im tempted to start a poll here just to see what people say.
    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    i love the idea that angsty-teens can get so spazzed out by computer games that they try to rage-rape themselves with a remote.

  7. #7
    Enlightened Despot Member Vladimir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    In ur nun, causing a bloody schism!
    Posts
    7,906

    Default Re: Police abuses

    So; tell me why someone should feel unsafe around someone in uniform?


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
    Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
    Down with dried flowers!
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



  8. #8
    Friend of Lady Luck Member Mooks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    1,290

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    So; tell me why someone should feel unsafe around someone in uniform?
    Thats not the point. Why should somebody feel safer around a soldier then a person specifically hired to "protect and serve" you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    i love the idea that angsty-teens can get so spazzed out by computer games that they try to rage-rape themselves with a remote.

  9. #9
    Enlightened Despot Member Vladimir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    In ur nun, causing a bloody schism!
    Posts
    7,906

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooks View Post
    Thats not the point. Why should somebody feel safer around a soldier then a person specifically hired to "protect and serve" you?
    That's exactly the point. Is an unarmed man in uniform more of a threat than an armed man with the authority to arrest you?

    The 'protect and serve' motto is a fallacy because law enforcement in most of the west is reactive. They are specifically hired to enforce laws.

    Although I'm quick to anger, whoever believes what you stated is either ignorant and/or resides in the developing/third world. When someone in the western world feels that way it is less a measure of society and more an indication of how they perceive the world.
    Last edited by Vladimir; 11-23-2009 at 16:32.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
    Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
    Down with dried flowers!
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



  10. #10
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    So; tell me why someone should feel unsafe around someone in uniform?
    Maybe because in some counties they like to arrest 9 months pregnant women, force them to give birth while shackled, refuse to let the mother hold the baby, and say they'll turn the baby over to state custody if no one else comes to pick up the child in 72 hours.
    The most recent atrocity committed by the self-proclaimed "America's Toughest Sheriff" involves a woman who was detained while 9-months pregnant. Alma Minerva Chacon's case has been receiving media attention due to the brutality with which she was treated. The very same night of her arrest, Chacon went into labor and found herself afraid and alone, being rushed to a local hospital with her hands and legs chained in shackles.

    Once she reached the hospital, nurses repeatedly begged the Sheriff's staff to allow them to unchain the mother, but they refused and Chacon was forced to give birth while still shackled to the bed. At one point, the nurse asked for them to release her so that she could be escorted to the bathroom for a urinalysis, but even that request was denied. But the worst came once Chacon gave birth to her baby girl.

    Still chained to the bed, Arpaio's police staff refused to allow Chacon to hold her newborn baby and then warned her that if no one came to pick up the child within 72 hours, she would be turned over into state custody.
    Or maybe for one of the numerous other examples in this thread alone, showing that thugs with badges can brutalize and kill innocent people and get away with it.

    CR
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  11. #11
    Enlightened Despot Member Vladimir's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    In ur nun, causing a bloody schism!
    Posts
    7,906

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Maybe because in some counties they like to arrest 9 months pregnant women, force them to give birth while shackled, refuse to let the mother hold the baby, and say they'll turn the baby over to state custody if no one else comes to pick up the child in 72 hours.


    Or maybe for one of the numerous other examples in this thread alone, showing that thugs with badges can brutalize and kill innocent people and get away with it.

    CR
    As discussed, "someone in uniform" describes a member of the armed forces. Look before you leap, Rabbit (yes, pun intended).


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
    Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
    Down with dried flowers!
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



  12. #12
    L'Etranger Senior Member Banquo's Ghost's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Hunting the Snark, a long way from Tipperary...
    Posts
    5,604

    Default Re: Police abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Maybe because in some counties they like to arrest 9 months pregnant women, force them to give birth while shackled, refuse to let the mother hold the baby, and say they'll turn the baby over to state custody if no one else comes to pick up the child in 72 hours.
    That was quite the most barbaric thing I have read for a while.

    Are there really no mechanisms for removing and charging someone like that sheriff - who is clearly racist, a brutal criminal and is depriving people of their constitutional protections?

    Such behaviour would be embarrassing in Saudi Arabia, let alone the United States.
    "If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
    Albert Camus "Noces"

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO