Police abuses

[Vladimir]

I guess the critics were right. Passing that illegal immigration law did increase racial profiling. Oh, wait!

[Crazed Rabbit]

A man calls 911 to ask for medical help for his 86 year old, bedridden mother.

Naturally, a bunch of police barge through the door. The woman, a grandmother, tells them to leave her house.

Naturally, the police taze her;

The remarkable complaint continues: "Instead, the apparent leader of the police [defendant Thomas Duran] instructed another policeman to 'Taser her!' He stated in his report that the 86 year-old plaintiff 'took a more aggressive posture in her bed,' and that he was fearful for his safety and the safety of others.
"Lonnie Tinsley told them, 'Don't taze my Granny!' to which they responded that they would Taser him; instead, they pulled him out of her apartment, took him down to the floor, handcuffed him and placed him in the back of a police car.
"The police then proceeded to approach Ms. Varner in her bed and stepped on her oxygen hose until she began to suffer oxygen deprivation.
"The police then fired a Taser at her and only one wire struck her, in the left arm; the police then fired a second Taser, striking her to the right and left of the midline of her upper chest and applied high voltage, causing burns to her chest, extreme pain and to pass out.
"The police then grabbed Ms. Varner by her forearms and jerked hands together, causing her soft flesh to tear and bleed on her bed; they then handcuffed her.
"The police freed Lonnie Tinsley from his incarceration in the back of the police car and permitted him to accompany the ambulance with his grandmother."
Tinsley says the cops capped it all off by having his grandmother "placed in the psychiatric ward at the direction of the El Reno police; she was held there for six days and released."

At least the sadists of America have a steady job supply and legal authority to torture people.

It seems some cops view the taser as a tool that lets them have almost as much fun as shooting people without all the bothersome paperwork and inquiries involving murdered people.

CR

[Meneldil]

Take the arms and start hanging cops on trees. That's pretty much the only solution. Show your governement that you're not going to let your cops act as the Gestapo. If a few innocent people start harming cops, they might start to wonder what's wrong.

[Mooks]

Take the arms and start hanging cops on trees. That's pretty much the only solution. Show your governement that you're not going to let your cops act as the Gestapo. If a few innocent people start harming cops, they might start to wonder what's wrong.

Thats the spirit!

[Vladimir]

Take the arms and start hanging cops on trees. That's pretty much the only solution. Show your governement that you're not going to let your cops act as the Gestapo. If a few innocent people start harming cops, they might start to wonder what's wrong.

God bless

[Husar]

Yeah, if a few cops are being unfair and beat innocent people, the obvious solution is to be unfair and hang some innocent cops on trees because the only possible reaction that could be expected from the government is to back down and tell their cops to be nice to all those "innocent" people who just killed a few cops...

[Mooks]

Yeah, if a few cops are being unfair and beat innocent people, the obvious solution is to be unfair and hang some innocent cops on trees because the only possible reaction that could be expected from the government is to back down and tell their cops to be nice to all those "innocent" people who just killed a few cops...

Meh, define "innocent". Every cop I know of has stolen somebodys marijuana before.

Semantics are fun.

[InsaneApache]

Not so much individual abuse, more institutional....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQuc...ayer_embedded#!

9/11 really was a politicians wet dream. They've been wanting to shut us up for decades. Now they have a reason.

I'm ashamed of my country.

[Husar]

Meh, define "innocent". Every cop I know of has stolen somebodys marijuana before.

Semantics are fun.

So if that justifies hanging the cops, then I guess possessing marijuana and doing filesharing justify the cops in beating and tasing people? How many people do you know who bought all their music?
I meant innocent more in the sense that they did not harm someone's body for fun and do not deserve to be hanged/beaten up by any reasonable standard.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Take the arms and start hanging cops on trees

God bless

Ho hum...



A man, trice convicted of armed robbery, robbed a casino. Taking €40000 / $50000 he and his accomplices fled by car. The police followed suit in a chase. After being shot at three times, the police returned fire, killing the man.

Naturally, civil war ensued. The intifada broke out immediately after the memorial service for this brutally violent serial armed robber. The once quiet university city of Grenoble is on fire as we speak, a full intifada in retaliation for 'taking one of them',



60 cars burned, shops looted and burned, and police repeatedly fired at with automatic weapons by the insurgents. A horde of thirthy insurgents armed with clubs and iron bars attacked a tram full of people.

Five arrests were made.







http://www.france24.com/en/20100717-...robbing-casino

[InsaneApache]

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/831163-p...-traffic-fines

Nice guy.

As Peel rightly said; "The police are the public and the public are the police".*

As such bastards and bullys get in. As in all walks of life.

* tested to destruction these last 25 years.

[Meneldil]

Ho hum...



A man, trice convicted of armed robbery, robbed a casino. Taking €40000 / $50000 he and his accomplices fled by car. The police followed suit in a chase. After being shot at three times, the police returned fire, killing the man.

Naturally, civil war ensued. The intifada broke out immediately after the memorial service for this brutally violent serial armed robber. The once quiet university city of Grenoble is on fire as we speak, a full intifada in retaliation for 'taking one of them',



60 cars burned, shops looted and burned, and police repeatedly fired at with automatic weapons by the insurgents. A horde of thirthy insurgents armed with clubs and iron bars attacked a tram full of people.

Five arrests were made.

We're clearly in another case entirely. It's ridiculous that thieves and criminals who died after being pursued by the cops are seen as victims by the scums that plague France.

Remember the riots of 2005? I clearly stated back then that the army should have been sent to deal - violently - with the scumbags who thought it was fun to burn their neighbour's car and school. I still think it.

[Skullheadhq]

Ho hum...



A man, trice convicted of armed robbery, robbed a casino. Taking €40000 / $50000 he and his accomplices fled by car. The police followed suit in a chase. After being shot at three times, the police returned fire, killing the man.

Naturally, civil war ensued. The intifada broke out immediately after the memorial service for this brutally violent serial armed robber. The once quiet university city of Grenoble is on fire as we speak, a full intifada in retaliation for 'taking one of them',



60 cars burned, shops looted and burned, and police repeatedly fired at with automatic weapons by the insurgents. A horde of thirthy insurgents armed with clubs and iron bars attacked a tram full of people.

Five arrests were made.







http://www.france24.com/en/20100717-...robbing-casino

Oh, I love those french riots on TV, only wouldn't like it if I lived there and it was my car they torched and danced upon with scimitars. Or my shop that was being destroyed Kristallnacht style, but is is good television.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well I'm happy the misfortune of people at least provides entertainment for this world's psychopaths.

[Vladimir]

A man calls 911 to ask for medical help for his 86 year old, bedridden mother.

Naturally, a bunch of police barge through the door. The woman, a grandmother, tells them to leave her house.

Naturally, the police taze her;



At least the sadists of America have a steady job supply and legal authority to torture people.

It seems some cops view the taser as a tool that lets them have almost as much fun as shooting people without all the bothersome paperwork and inquiries involving murdered people.

CR

I killed four Japs in World War II,

Don't trust the rabbit. There's always more to the story.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I killed four Japs in World War II,

Don't trust the rabbit. There's always more to the story.

An officer used the Taser when she pulled a kitchen knife out from under her pillow and threatened cops with it, police said.

Well golly gee, if the police said it then it must be true. It's not like they've ever systematically lied to cover up crimes up to and including murder whenever they have to.

I'm just glad we can put this story to rest, and not worry about niggling little holes like why even a knife wielding granny who couldn't get out of bed had to be tasered even assuming the police aren't lying, just because the police said their violent acts were justified.

After all, if we don't blindly trust violent men when they say they had to be violent, we might have to face uncomfortable facts.

CR

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The ultimate "point" of this thread still escapes me.

Are there police abuses? Yes. Are efforts to curb such abuses less effective than we would like? Yes. Taking these as givens, what should be done about it?

Do we abolish police in favor of personal self-defense only?

Do we retire police after just a few years service to prevent them from acquiring too much power/too much interest in securing themselves?

Do we pick people who don't want to be police and force them to serve as police?


Consider the following...

No matter how thoroughly we screen for things at the outset, some people will discover while doing police work that they LIKE using the baton and cracking a few heads to achieve their objective. Moreover, it is hardly surprising that people who do like that approach to problem-solving self-select into a career path that allows for (encourages?) it. This is human nature. A goodly percentage of us, given power by situation or by assignment, ENJOY exercising that power.

So what is to be done?

[Beskar]

Police here are like angels of Justice, mostly.

[Crazed Rabbit]

A schoolteacher calls cops to her house because of a prowler.

Naturally it all ends in the cops repeatedly tasering her as she is curled on the ground in pain, because she had the gall to not be completely submissive in response to his questions.

Story and video here. Video at CNN here.

One of the cops has been given a paid vacation until it blows over, while the other quit before an investigation and has already been hired by a different police force.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The ultimate "point" of this thread still escapes me.

Are there police abuses? Yes. Are efforts to curb such abuses less effective than we would like? Yes. Taking these as givens, what should be done about it?

Do we abolish police in favor of personal self-defense only?

Do we retire police after just a few years service to prevent them from acquiring too much power/too much interest in securing themselves?

Do we pick people who don't want to be police and force them to serve as police?

I guess we work out the law regarding recording police officers better, and such things.


I have seen plenty of fake scandals caused by people who are anti-police though. Definitely a two sided problem. I think it was CR who posted one of those in the BR video thread.

[Beskar]

I have seen plenty of fake scandals caused by people who are anti-police though. Definitely a two sided problem. I think it was CR who posted one of those in the BR video thread.

Yeah, there are plently of fakes.